Bottom Paint

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Jim Henderson

I just had the bottom painted a month ago. Yesterday I was in the water looking at the hull and noticed an area the size of a dinner plate where the paint had already come off on the keel. There were also several other areas on the keel where the paint has come off. I called the guy who painted the bottom and he said that this was normal for Hunters. That the material used by Hunter in their keels causes this problem. Is he tying to cover for a poor prep job or is there some validity in his comments? Has anyone experienced problems with the bottom paint sticking to the keel?
 
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Paul Bednarzyk

Jim, I suspect that he is pulling your leg and that the prep is the problem. I'm on my second Hunter (voluntarily) and have had 3 bottom jobs with NO problems. I can't believe Hunter does anything differently to the gel coats as compared to other manufacturers that would be causing this. Just my opinion, but I could be wrong. Paul Bednarzyk S/V Knot Again
 
Dec 2, 1999
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Hunter Vision-36 Rio Vista, CA.
You tel'm Paul

Paul B, did you also notice that it was on the keel. These keels are either cast iron or lead. I agree that it has to do with the prep. You know a little power wash and some sanding go a long way in preparing a bottom job that should last 2-4 years. I would demand that they pull the boat and re-do the keel (if that is all that is wrong.
 
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Harry Asbury

Bad prep job

I had a bottom job done on my 27 Hunter two years ago, except for a half dollar size spot just below the water line there have been no problems or bare spots. Well ok, the bottom of the keel where I have found less water and more land has a lot less paint now but that was my fault not the yards. My point is unless you rub or scrape the paint off you should not have any bare spots on the hull or keel if the job was done correctly. Take it back and get it fixed!
 
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Paul Bednarzyk

Oops!

Steve, you are correct in that i didn't remember the keel, however, that still indicates an inadequate prep and agree with your comments completely. Paul Bednarzyk S/V Knot Again
 
Dec 2, 1999
15,184
Hunter Vision-36 Rio Vista, CA.
just another thought

Was this keel painted before? If it was why did the paint stick then and now it's peeling. Don't you just hate a SOB like this that needs to make excuses for a poorly done job. Just take the responsibility for your actions, admit that you screwed up and fix it.
 
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Jim Oursler in Rockwall

flaking paint on iron keel is bad prep

The subject response about sums it up. You got a bummer keel job and the guy should fess up, sand, and re-do..
 
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Michael Cohn

More on prep

I am intimately familiar (unfortunately) with the problem of paint coming off the keel and/or blistering on the keel. Proper prep involves sanding the keel down to bare metal, then priming with an *ETCHING* type primer, then painting. The timing betwen steps is very critical. In particular, you have to prime the metal before it has time to oxidize, and you must use an etching type primer. I found out about all of this when my local yard screwed it up twice and tried to make me pay for it. A consultation from the paint manufacturer was quite helpful in clarifying the situation, and it was free. In this case, my guess is that your man messed up one or both of the steps I've described. MC
 
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Dave Condon

Preperation

As one who has ppainted bottoms for over 20 years, preperation is the key as I tell everyone. Gnerally, if the yard and/or person has a good reputation, then they will resolve the problem. Go ask them again. There are two other possibilities. If all the paint was not removed from the keel and another brand was painted on top of the old paint, then there could be a chemical reaction which may have caused this. Another possibility, is the improper manufacture of paint which has happened in the past. To all those who have their bottoms painted, do know what product or brand of paint was used for future reference
 
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