Bottom Paint in the Gulf of Mexico

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Jun 18, 2013
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Hunter 280 League City
:confused: I'm a new owner of a Hunter 280. I'm bringing her from fresh water in South Dakota to the Clear Lake/Galveston Bay area (brackish water). Are there any local owners out there that can recommend a bottom paint frequency and/or a really good bottom paint for the type of water we encounter down here?
 
Jun 9, 2004
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Hunter 29.5 Orange Beach, AL
I use Trinidad SR, applying 2 coats. Expensive, but I can stretch about 3 years out of it .
 
May 11, 2005
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Seidelman S37 Slidell, La.
My last bottom job

I have always used Trinidad, up till last time. After the BP spill, my bottom paint was ruined, and had only been on the boat a short time. Because I figured there was a good chance it would get ruined again, I used some stuff called Super Ship Bottom. Half the price of Trinidad. Has now been on the boat for two years, and so far so good. I sail offshore quite a bit, but home base is brackish.
 
Mar 1, 2012
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1961 Rhodes Meridian 25 Texas coast
I'm slipped on Matagorda Bay and have gotten 3 years out of Pettit's ACP 60, 3 times now They have a new name for it now, which I don't know
 
Feb 26, 2011
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Achilles SD-130 Alameda, CA
I'm slipped on Matagorda Bay and have gotten 3 years out of Pettit's ACP 60, 3 times now They have a new name for it now, which I don't know
ACP 60 has been reformulated and is now called Ultima 60.
 
Feb 11, 2006
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Hunter 34 Galveston,Texas
I use Petit Trinidad for Galveston bay area.Got almost nine years.Excellent product.I recently sprayed my bottom again.Two coats. Three at waterline.
 
Feb 26, 2011
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Achilles SD-130 Alameda, CA
I use Petit Trinidad for Galveston bay area.Got almost nine years.
No offense, but anti fouling paints are simply not designed to last much longer than three years. As a hull cleaner with 19 years experience, I have to say I find your claim pretty dubious.
 
Feb 11, 2006
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Hunter 34 Galveston,Texas
Give me a break.What do I possibly have to gain by making that up? I dont believe our story is so unique.I am suprised you didn't throw in the " over 20, 000 hull cleanings also" Your post on every forum always have the same tone.A tone forums can do without.
 
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Mar 26, 2009
3,198
1976 formosa 41 yankee clipper santa barbara. ca.(not there)
some vendors think they know it all.is a sad thing, as there is always something to learn.
 
Feb 26, 2011
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Achilles SD-130 Alameda, CA
Not painting your bottom for nine years doesn't mean the paint worked for nine years.
 

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Mar 26, 2009
3,198
1976 formosa 41 yankee clipper santa barbara. ca.(not there)
isnt the not panting that is the measurement--it is how long can we manage to have a clean without barnies growing on bottom between needing some one who is willing to swim under boat in these tropical waters to go do it---lol--2 weeks between divings is not functional paint. if it stays clean for 4 weeks, the paint still works. mine is clean fro 4 weeks . and it hasnt been painted in loong time--since before i got boat.

if demeaning your customer and potential customer base is your idea of doing business, mebbe ye should seek a different profession
 
Feb 26, 2011
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Achilles SD-130 Alameda, CA
I didn't demean anybody. I simply disagree with you and spraygun about the effective lifespan of anti fouling paint. What he is claiming is similar to somebody saying their car gets 100 mpg. Everybody else in the world is getting 2-3 years out of their paint yet somehow you two have managed to go many years beyond that. Is that because you somehow have found the anti fouling magic bullet or is it because you aren't being realistic about your paint's performance?
 
Sep 25, 2008
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Alden 50 Sarasota, Florida
A yard manager I know once uttered a very profound statement -
Bottom paint lasts as long as you leave it on.

Or, efficacy is measured in how clean, not how long.
 
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Mar 26, 2009
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1976 formosa 41 yankee clipper santa barbara. ca.(not there)
I didn't demean anybody. I simply disagree with you and spraygun about the effective lifespan of anti fouling paint. What he is claiming is similar to somebody saying their car gets 100 mpg. Everybody else in the world is getting 2-3 years out of their paint yet somehow you two have managed to go many years beyond that. Is that because you somehow have found the anti fouling magic bullet or is it because you aren't being realistic about your paint's performance?

and you are here to see each and every one of our hulls personally and at no cost to us.... free bottom paint and cleaning for a year, correct?? highly doubtful--will be like asking you to personally overseee work in gulf of mexico, as you are ensconced in san francisco bay with its own ecological problems. those differ greatly from the rest of the world.
i am sure you also have an eye on the bottoms of each and every boat out on the pacific AND, now, ALSO the gulf of mexico--which port do you base out of in gom these days.....and , have you been there extensively since the bp spill......

.this is a fair question, as the area is different than san francisco.
 
Feb 26, 2011
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Achilles SD-130 Alameda, CA
A yard manager I know once uttered a very profound statement -
Bottom paint lasts as long as you leave it on.

Or, efficacy is measured in how clean, not how long.
Yes, and I once heard a yard owner say that bottom paint needs 3 months in the water to cure.

Yards are not immune from making ignorant proclamations.
 

zeehag

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Mar 26, 2009
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1976 formosa 41 yankee clipper santa barbara. ca.(not there)
as all boat bottoms are different and each locale has differing environmental concerns and ecological idiosynchrasies, i am sure you are well versed in the specifics of the gulf of mexico....
you seem to not have much of a knowledge of the environment of warmer waters, which works great in SAN FRANCISCO....
 
Feb 26, 2011
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Achilles SD-130 Alameda, CA
Anti fouling paint loses it's effectiveness when the biocide in it has been leached out, a process the paints are designed to complete within a few years. This is true regardless of where your boat lives or how often it's cleaned or any other factor that you think is making your paint last for a decade (or whatever.) This is not a matter of opinion, it is simply the way they are made to work. So when someone claims to be getting 300% more longevity out of their bottom paint than the product was designed to deliver, I know that person probably doesn't really know what's going on down there. Or at the very least has a much different idea of what qualifies as "clean" than the rest of us.
 
Sep 25, 2008
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Alden 50 Sarasota, Florida
Yards are not immune from making ignorant proclamations.
People in glass houses...

You might think twice before criticizing someone about whom you know nothing.

The fact remains, efficacy is measured by how long it works, not a calendar. If someone tells me his has been effective for 9 years, I'm more inclined to ask - where do I get some?
 

zeehag

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Mar 26, 2009
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1976 formosa 41 yankee clipper santa barbara. ca.(not there)
i have a suggestion--instead of bashing those of us experiencing magical powers in our oldass paint-- come down to each one of us at your own expense to visualize the effects personally instead of generalizing and exhibiting extreme arrogance....that arrogance is a definitive put off as far as solicitation of potential customer base, and i believe that even tho usa is becoming less capitalistic and more fascistic, one might just wish to keep whatever clients one might scratch out from under the cold san francisco bay rocks.

all rules have exceptions. nothing is written in stone, much less eco-science, which is a truly changing phenomenon
 
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