Bottom paint and speed

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Mar 6, 2012
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hunter 34 chicago
I have a 1984 Hunter 34 that I picked up used a couple of years ago. At the time the bottom paint was in decent condition. However after three seasons on Lake Michigan it is time to put a new bottom on this boat.

My question is this, on a boat of this style , will a faster harder bottom paint make a difference in my speed. I feel that this boat is a poor light air boat. Strictly sail sales people had numerous suggestions such as Vivid, Eco and VC17 but none could tell me what the real speed difference was based upon actual testing. so for those that owned the boat, what suggestions would you make for this to be a better light air boat. The prop has already been changed to a collapseable one.
 
Jun 5, 2010
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Hunter 25 Burlington NJ
Thoughts about bottom paints for speed

A faster, harder bottom paint will make a difference in speed-- up to a point. That point being, when the bottom clogs up with slime and goo. Many hard-shell racing paints, like Baltoplate and VC-17, are less adequate in serious antifouling properties. I do not know your area; but in colder water like the Great Lakes you may have less problem with green slime than many of us do; so this may not be as much of a factor.

In my opinion ablative paints are the best compromise all around. They are easy to apply. They can be applied over just about anything. They require very little surface prep season to season. And because they wear away slowly (rather like seashore house paint), they may actually enable better speed, both because they do not allow slime buildup and because, by wearing away in the passing water, they ensure a pretty good state of laminar flow (they smooth out their own lumps and imperfections after a while).

However, a caveat-- as much as we all like to sit in armchairs discussing theory, the reality is that we may be talking about only a third of a knot or less. All depends on the conditions in which you sail, the weather of the day, boat loading, sail trim, sail condition, and about a hundred more factors that have nothing to do with bottom paint. One guy sailing an H34 with lumpy Pettit Trinidad may outsail even a more experienced guy with another H34 wearing polished VC-17, merely because his sheetline isn't as old and stretched-out or his crew needs less of a diet.

In my experience I know of no panacea to guarantee more speed under all conditions by way of installing better equipment or using better bottom paint. Unless you race very competitively and your boat is otherwise very tricked-out for racing, a switch of bottom paint may not result in much change, as far as you'll be able to tell. Since you say you went three years without changing or applying paint, I would presume this is not the case.

(One more theoretical point-- if you are serious about racing competively, consider the weight of two gallons of bottom paint on the boat. It's like having two gallon cans sitting in the cabin. So in theory the fastest thing would be the least quantity of bottom paint possible. This is why airlines don't paint their airplanes any more.)

Without a doubt your going to a folding prop is a very good first step. Mind that some race clubs penalize it though.

The thing I like most about Baltoplate is the color. It just looks cooler. If I could get it, I would have old-school 'racing bronze' (which, by the way, along with red was noted for carrying the highest copper-antifouling content amongst all colors-- and can be polished too).

I am putting Interlux ACT on Diana this year because of the reasons I gave for using ablative paints. I chose Shark White because I like the color (goes with the bootstripe and hull graphic).
 
Jun 5, 2010
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Hunter 25 Burlington NJ
Another thing-- you may want to tune the rig better and look into replacing halyards. One reason people do not point well in light air is due to headstay sag and poor luff tension. If you have a furler, chances are the headstay inside it is too loose. You might start with that (in addition to a choice of conservative but quality bottom paint).

Also, check and see where the weight is in the boat. Heavy gear stored at the ends slows down yaw trim (steering) and will make the boat prone to sloshing through swells rather than riding over them. In light air this will slow you down more than moss on the bottom.
 
Jun 6, 2006
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currently boatless wishing Harrington Harbor North, MD
Also, bottom paint will probably not affect your light air (aka low speed) performance. The surface of the hull in contact with the water slows you down due to skin friction. The faster you go the more important this becomes. it is a "velocity squared" relationship between boat speed and skin friction. So at low speeds you can basically have sand paper of any grit and it will not make a noticeable difference and at higher speeds it will make a very noticeable difference.
If you are looking for better light air performance you are probably looking to both tune the rig and purchasing light air sails. I know that our 0.5 oz asym really makes a difference in <5 knots of wind. Prior to having it we just pin wheeled in the Bay, with it we can make a smokin 2 knots in 3 knots of apparent wind. Still can't get much to happen below 3 knots apparent though. Probably need a very large light weight spinnaker for that.
 
Jun 5, 2010
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Hunter 25 Burlington NJ
I like what Bill says except for wanting to add one thing. It is true that skin friction matters less at slower speeds-- of course at 0 knots it makes no difference what the bottom feels like! And at higher speeds it starts to matter more because the boat is just demanding more and more horsepower to keep itself going. It doesn't have an overdrive to shift into and requires everything it's got to help. For most of us this is in a range of about 3-1/2 to 8-1/2 knots, at which (we hope) most of our sailing occurs.

Except when you are so overdriven by conditions that it stops mattering again. My cousin tells a story of sailing a Cherubini 48 up into Delaware Bay, at night, in a gale, with everything flying, at 14 knots. The boat would not have cared if it had been towing a swamped dinghy. :)
 
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