Looking to repaint the bottom, and the previous owner reccomended that I add "A box of cayenne pepper to the paint mix. I didn't have_anything on the bottom for the first year or so" Thought on this? Enviro safe? Safe for the hull? Sounds clever to me!
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Last summer we threw a wasp hive into the marina. With in a minuet the water was almost boil with fish eating the wasps as they came out of the hive. Pepper in your paint may cause the fish to eat it off.
Last summer we threw a wasp hive into the marina. With in a minuet the water was almost boil with fish eating the wasps as they came out of the hive. Pepper in your paint may cause the fish to eat it off.
Old Shrimper Recipe
Happy someone mentioned this. Years ago (early 80's) before anti-biotics were first on the market and copper was still the best biocide/slimacide, I recall while living aboard in St. Augustine, the old shrimpers talking about adding a jar of powdered red pepper to their paint. They claimed, "it raised havoc on the barnacles". I never tried it, but everytime I walk into a pizza joint and I see that bottle of flaked red cheyenne pepper, and know how I respond to it on pizza, I have to wonder what a small barnacle must feel!! Their may be some truth to this. In fine powdered form it would blend well with any paint. If I were sailing the oceans and wanted a quick way to help prolong the life of my bottom paint, carrying a few bottles along and adding it in powdered form to a new gallon of paint job in some foreign port, would be a no brainer. Afterall for hundreds of years they careened their vessels on shore at low tide, burned the bottoms, added pine pitch and rum and whatever else they could find to seal the bottom and went on their merry way. Florida shrimpers agree, this ain't no folklore, this is the real thing right from the horses mouth! Bob
Happy someone mentioned this. Years ago (early 80's) before anti-biotics were first on the market and copper was still the best biocide/slimacide, I recall while living aboard in St. Augustine, the old shrimpers talking about adding a jar of powdered red pepper to their paint. They claimed, "it raised havoc on the barnacles". I never tried it, but everytime I walk into a pizza joint and I see that bottle of flaked red cheyenne pepper, and know how I respond to it on pizza, I have to wonder what a small barnacle must feel!! Their may be some truth to this. In fine powdered form it would blend well with any paint. If I were sailing the oceans and wanted a quick way to help prolong the life of my bottom paint, carrying a few bottles along and adding it in powdered form to a new gallon of paint job in some foreign port, would be a no brainer. Afterall for hundreds of years they careened their vessels on shore at low tide, burned the bottoms, added pine pitch and rum and whatever else they could find to seal the bottom and went on their merry way. Florida shrimpers agree, this ain't no folklore, this is the real thing right from the horses mouth! Bob
I use oxytetracycline....
I get the crystals from my veternarian, pulverize/powder it and add to the bottom paint. Keeps the barnacles off the prop and shaft and rudder where they normally attach. I only add to the paint adjacent to this gear and I dont paint the prop. A full season will cause the powder to dissolve and leave teeny 'craters' in the bottom paint; but, it sure works.
I get the crystals from my veternarian, pulverize/powder it and add to the bottom paint. Keeps the barnacles off the prop and shaft and rudder where they normally attach. I only add to the paint adjacent to this gear and I dont paint the prop. A full season will cause the powder to dissolve and leave teeny 'craters' in the bottom paint; but, it sure works.
Cayenne: Urban Legend or Effective Additive?
Cayenne pepper has been mixed in with bottom paint for a long time in an attempt to "sour the milk" of bottom paint and make it unattractive to marine life. Some swear by it, others are skeptical, so reports of its effectiveness are anecdotal. But it won't harm your paint if you want to mix in some and see what happens. If I were going to try it, I'd paint half the boat with the added cayenne, and then see what happens to the bottom as time goes by.
Cayenne pepper has been mixed in with bottom paint for a long time in an attempt to "sour the milk" of bottom paint and make it unattractive to marine life. Some swear by it, others are skeptical, so reports of its effectiveness are anecdotal. But it won't harm your paint if you want to mix in some and see what happens. If I were going to try it, I'd paint half the boat with the added cayenne, and then see what happens to the bottom as time goes by.
I used the pepper for two years and ......
my conclusion was that it did nothing to keep the critters off the hull. HOWEVER, there were other effects...... The first year after the fall haulout (and mid-year dive check also) the bottom was very clean. The second year with a new application of paint and pepper, the bottom was much worse. I explained the difference between the two years performance as being due to the usage of the boat. The first year I was on two separate month-long cruises with a lot of motoring. The second year I had just normal weekends and a single couple-week cruise. I attributed the clean bottom to lots of use. And the "OTHER' effect? I added the cayenne pepper to my paint without grinding it into a dust. It was a b**ch to apply- heavy roller drag, it took more paint, and it cost me at least 1/4 knot of speed due to the roughness of the finish. Now I want to know more about oxytetracycline.
my conclusion was that it did nothing to keep the critters off the hull. HOWEVER, there were other effects...... The first year after the fall haulout (and mid-year dive check also) the bottom was very clean. The second year with a new application of paint and pepper, the bottom was much worse. I explained the difference between the two years performance as being due to the usage of the boat. The first year I was on two separate month-long cruises with a lot of motoring. The second year I had just normal weekends and a single couple-week cruise. I attributed the clean bottom to lots of use. And the "OTHER' effect? I added the cayenne pepper to my paint without grinding it into a dust. It was a b**ch to apply- heavy roller drag, it took more paint, and it cost me at least 1/4 knot of speed due to the roughness of the finish. Now I want to know more about oxytetracycline.
been thinking of this
I have a dingy that has no bottom paint and if I use it for the big ship will need to put osme protection on the bottom. I used some cheap stuff (in the nautical terms) for the big boat and find it peels off in chunks. So what woudl I use now? Two part paint. No question. Save the hot sauce for the ribs.
I have a dingy that has no bottom paint and if I use it for the big ship will need to put osme protection on the bottom. I used some cheap stuff (in the nautical terms) for the big boat and find it peels off in chunks. So what woudl I use now? Two part paint. No question. Save the hot sauce for the ribs.
oh yeah
I fyou believe the stuff ont he cayanne, then wouldn't it make sense to use powdered habenero peppers which are exponentially greater than Cayanne. Knew a smart aleck kid who ate two once and spent two days in agony on the toilet. Ever wonder why they don't sell it at most places? Because you cannot eat it!
I fyou believe the stuff ont he cayanne, then wouldn't it make sense to use powdered habenero peppers which are exponentially greater than Cayanne. Knew a smart aleck kid who ate two once and spent two days in agony on the toilet. Ever wonder why they don't sell it at most places? Because you cannot eat it!
Head for the Islands Mon!!!
They have some real good bottom paint down there. It will kill everything that comes within 200 yards of your boat. (Just kidding) But they still use the stuff we had 20 years ago, that worked. Did you notice that our friends in California want to ban the use of the stuff we use now, because it kills barnacles. DUH. Fair Winds Cap'n Dave
They have some real good bottom paint down there. It will kill everything that comes within 200 yards of your boat. (Just kidding) But they still use the stuff we had 20 years ago, that worked. Did you notice that our friends in California want to ban the use of the stuff we use now, because it kills barnacles. DUH. Fair Winds Cap'n Dave
no good here.
I tried one side with pepper one side without knowing well it would do nothing. I was right did nothing to improve the paint. In tampa bay i paint about every 18 months but i scrub the bottom monthly.
I tried one side with pepper one side without knowing well it would do nothing. I was right did nothing to improve the paint. In tampa bay i paint about every 18 months but i scrub the bottom monthly.
well...
I use cayenne pepper for a lot of stuff, keeping bugs away, mice and things out of the garden, and even in my socks on very cold days when I have to work outside, and a 'tea' made with it is as effective as three or four cups of coffeee at waking you up (good swig of franks red-hot is as good), and while it does keep snails and slugs off the garden plants, anything that doesn't like it stays away, even spritzing the dogs bottem when shes in heat will keep strays away, it has to be re-applied after every rain, so I feel it would not work as a bottom paint. It even goes good on most food strangely enough Ken.
I use cayenne pepper for a lot of stuff, keeping bugs away, mice and things out of the garden, and even in my socks on very cold days when I have to work outside, and a 'tea' made with it is as effective as three or four cups of coffeee at waking you up (good swig of franks red-hot is as good), and while it does keep snails and slugs off the garden plants, anything that doesn't like it stays away, even spritzing the dogs bottem when shes in heat will keep strays away, it has to be re-applied after every rain, so I feel it would not work as a bottom paint. It even goes good on most food strangely enough Ken.
Copper bottom?
Although cayenne works great when added to crayfish... Anyone making their own copper-epoxy mixture? http://www.epoxyproducts.com/copper4u.html
Although cayenne works great when added to crayfish... Anyone making their own copper-epoxy mixture? http://www.epoxyproducts.com/copper4u.html
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