Boat Insurance

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Jul 24, 2006
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Macgregor 25 Tulsa, Ok.
Greetings all, I am in the process of buying a 1984 MacGregor 25. I am going to get a quote for insurance from my auto/home agent (Allstate) and was curious if there are good marine-only insurance companies out there. I was browsing at the local West Marine on Saturday and they had some pamphlets for a boat insurance plan. I just wanted to get input from others, as I am sure there are pitfalls going either through a general insurance agent or a specialty carrier, and I am sure there are some insurance scams out there as well. Also, are there any assumed covereages they "pack" into a policy that are useless, and are there any coverages which one would assume are in a policy, but aren't there unless you ask? Thanks in advance for the help.
 
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Waffle

1984 MacGregor 25.

your home owners all ready covers liability. You don’t need boat insurance unless you have a loan.
 
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Salty Dog

You might want to give Boat U.S. a call also. They have some pretty competative rates and coverages for the smaller boats. I have heard that Progressive and GEICO also have marine coverage.
 

tweitz

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Oct 30, 2005
290
Beneteau 323 East Hampton, New York
Insurance

Lots of comments in the archives on this. Like your car there are two kinds of insurance -- liability and hull (the equivalent of collision). Your homeowner's might cover liability, but you need to check carefully. It used to be typical that liability would be covered only for boats under 26 feet, and with a motor under 10 horsepower. Not certain your Mac qualifies on both counts, but you need to read the policy. For hull insurance, the kind that pays you if its lost or damaged, marine policies often give a stated value of the boat; other policies often give a depreciated value which is likely to be almost nothing for an older boat when you make a claim.
 
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Rick

Progressive

We have Progressive insurance due to competitive premiums. We have seen comments on the Boat US's insurance premiums and each year we check them out and the premiums are NEVER competitive.
 
Jun 7, 2004
383
Schock 35 Seattle
We have

owned two Macs in the past. One of the reasons we were told the 26 ft. boat is actually 25'10" LOA is that many homeowners/auto companies will insure boats up to 26 ft. We added ours to our Allstate car insurance and were very happy with them. Once while retrieving the boat up a boat ramp I snagged a shroud on an overhanging shade tree and down came the mast. No problems getting it replaced. Our current boat is a 35' Schock and we had to go with regular marine insurance.
 
Oct 11, 2007
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Island Packet IP31 Patuxent River, MD
Abby: We shifted last year from Progressive's "Drive" insurance, sold in our case through USAA (because I am retired military). We shifted to BoatUS and saved $100 or about 20% on cost. But the main reason was that Progressive doesn't include "Salvage" insurance in their boat policy, nor could theie underwriting Department even tell me what "Salvage" insurance was. There are two types of "Salvage" insurance included in Boat policies. One pays to remove your hull remains from the slip or from the channel fairway if you should sink in either place. Progressive and many others will do this. But the other kind of Salvage insurance is when you go hard aground and call a tow boat to get you off, and the tower tells you that this will be a "Salvage" claim towing situation, because he had to use air bags to lift you up off the rock, or because he had to call for a second boat to get you off,etc. He then tells you that your towing insurance is not worth a bucket of warm spit and he is claiming 10-20% of the value of your boat as a salvage fee. The same can happen if you are being blown toward a lee shore w/o power or sails, and you call for a tow. The tower tells you that without him you would have blown up onto the lee shore, lost your boat, and endangered you and your crew's lives. Under maritime law he can (as a salvage claim) ask for up to 100% of the value of your boat. Go on BoatUS web site and search for "Salvage Insurance" to fully understand what "Salvage claims. Darned few sailors know anything about Salvage claims of the second type mentioned above, but the threat of a hard grounding leading to a salvage claim is very real. You need "Salvage" insurance.
 

Mulf

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Dec 2, 2003
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Hunter 410 Chester, MD (Kent Island)
And don't overlook pollution liabilty...

such as when your boat leaks fuel or sinks and the fuel tank pollutes wetlands, etc. Also, I understand that damaging coral reefs or sea grass in places like the Florida keys can result in astronomical fines. Going cheap on insurance could cost you your home!
 
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Jimmy

Allstate okay

Hagerty, progressive, and a small boat you don't need much, but be sure you are getting something for your money. for instance if you have a claim ask around. Anything Worst Marine sells is suspect, lotta claims get denied. The best around here is A.B. Stevenson Co. Or Twin Rivers.
 
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Drew

Abby

If you already have home/auto with Allstate, insuring a 25 footer inland (I assume Oklahoma means inland) will be cheap and easy. I am guessing a hundred bucks or so a year for the extra liability, which is important should the unthinkable occur. Allstate will throw in the hull part because they don't care, and neither should you - cash value of a boat like that that has already been splashed at least once is buttkis.
 
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