Brand new to sailin with my first boat (o'day 192, 1985).My wife and I were out on the Hudson river on Fri. and the jib just shredded. I believe it was the original. The furler is a schaefer system 100 (discontinued according to Steve at Schaefer Marine). My questions are: Should I replace the furler? How do I go about purchasing a new jib ie. measurements etc.? Any help would be appreciated.
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Keep furler if OK
No need to replace the furler unless it is hard to furl, breaking frequently, etc. Regarding the sail, any sail loft, either local or online, should be able to replace the sail if you know what percentage of the foretraingle it is (i.e., 100% jib, 130% genoa, etc.). You really don't need the sail measurements.
No need to replace the furler unless it is hard to furl, breaking frequently, etc. Regarding the sail, any sail loft, either local or online, should be able to replace the sail if you know what percentage of the foretraingle it is (i.e., 100% jib, 130% genoa, etc.). You really don't need the sail measurements.
Local vs. online
There was recently a discussion about going local or online for sails. It was a pretty interesting thread. What I took from it was that a local sail loft is available to help out if the new sail isn't quite perfect, you can actually talk with them etc. I'll be looking into some new sails for my 25 this winter and figure I'll proabably try and stay local so I can talk with the sail loft if there are any questions/issues. Just my $.02. Geof
There was recently a discussion about going local or online for sails. It was a pretty interesting thread. What I took from it was that a local sail loft is available to help out if the new sail isn't quite perfect, you can actually talk with them etc. I'll be looking into some new sails for my 25 this winter and figure I'll proabably try and stay local so I can talk with the sail loft if there are any questions/issues. Just my $.02. Geof
New sails...
I agree with Phil, if there's nothing wrong with the furler why ditch it? As for sails, while there is some merit to buying sails locally, on-line is a viable and very much cost-saving option provided you're purchasing original spec sails. It's only when you start getting into hi-tech and custom stuff that you really run into trouble. When I bought my new sails I went to Cruising Direct (a division of North Sails) and was totally impressed with their service. While everyone else was quoting me stupid prices for spec sails CD quoted me $1,300.00 for both the main and the headsail. Even if I had gone with the next highest quote it would have been an additional $2,000.00! Now...is it worth $2,000.00 to have the sails made locally? Not to me. But like anything else, personal preference prevails. I've posted some new pics on my home page flying the new sails and the new gennaker, linkage below. Cheers, Bob
I agree with Phil, if there's nothing wrong with the furler why ditch it? As for sails, while there is some merit to buying sails locally, on-line is a viable and very much cost-saving option provided you're purchasing original spec sails. It's only when you start getting into hi-tech and custom stuff that you really run into trouble. When I bought my new sails I went to Cruising Direct (a division of North Sails) and was totally impressed with their service. While everyone else was quoting me stupid prices for spec sails CD quoted me $1,300.00 for both the main and the headsail. Even if I had gone with the next highest quote it would have been an additional $2,000.00! Now...is it worth $2,000.00 to have the sails made locally? Not to me. But like anything else, personal preference prevails. I've posted some new pics on my home page flying the new sails and the new gennaker, linkage below. Cheers, Bob
Lesson
Your experience is a lesson that even with lightly used freshwater boats, sails in the 15-20 year old range are often in need of replacement. The same goes for running rigging.
Your experience is a lesson that even with lightly used freshwater boats, sails in the 15-20 year old range are often in need of replacement. The same goes for running rigging.
Hello fellow Hudson River sailor
Jim, Sorry to hear about your jib. There really isn't a sail loft too close to you. There is one at Samalot Marina in Haverstraw, it's down past Bear Mountain Bridge a ways on the west side. I purchased a new genoa on line from this very web site. It was painless, and I had my new sail at my door in 6 weeks. Your gona need to either measure yourself or have the sail loft folks meassure for you. Even if your boat is a popular production model, they can vary slightly from year to year on the rigging they used. I meassured myself with the directions you get once you order. I had some questions about the messurment process, as the instructions were not as clear as I needed. An email or two and a phone call, is all it took to clear up the instructions. The new sail fits like a glove. The other option is, if you are happy with the fit of the old sail, you can just measure the luff, leech, and foot of your old sail, if those are intact. If you order online, make sure you tell them the furler make and model. Here is the site for Samalot: http://www.haverstrawmarina.com/Samalot.html There are some used sail sites on the internet, but don't get you hopes up. http://www.thesailwarehouse.com/ http://usedsails.com/ Good luck
Jim, Sorry to hear about your jib. There really isn't a sail loft too close to you. There is one at Samalot Marina in Haverstraw, it's down past Bear Mountain Bridge a ways on the west side. I purchased a new genoa on line from this very web site. It was painless, and I had my new sail at my door in 6 weeks. Your gona need to either measure yourself or have the sail loft folks meassure for you. Even if your boat is a popular production model, they can vary slightly from year to year on the rigging they used. I meassured myself with the directions you get once you order. I had some questions about the messurment process, as the instructions were not as clear as I needed. An email or two and a phone call, is all it took to clear up the instructions. The new sail fits like a glove. The other option is, if you are happy with the fit of the old sail, you can just measure the luff, leech, and foot of your old sail, if those are intact. If you order online, make sure you tell them the furler make and model. Here is the site for Samalot: http://www.haverstrawmarina.com/Samalot.html There are some used sail sites on the internet, but don't get you hopes up. http://www.thesailwarehouse.com/ http://usedsails.com/ Good luck
Right here!!!!!
Jim, I am sorry to hear about your jib as well. I have bought two spinnakers right here from Sailboat owners. They are great to work with and they are definitely priced right. Give Bly or Phil a call and talk to them. I am sure you will be pleasantly surprised Good luck Charlie Gruetzner S/V Angels' Grace Mamaroneck NY
Jim, I am sorry to hear about your jib as well. I have bought two spinnakers right here from Sailboat owners. They are great to work with and they are definitely priced right. Give Bly or Phil a call and talk to them. I am sure you will be pleasantly surprised Good luck Charlie Gruetzner S/V Angels' Grace Mamaroneck NY
Sails
Check out WWW.the sailwarehouse.com. I've purchased two sails from them and I am very happy with the sails.
Check out WWW.the sailwarehouse.com. I've purchased two sails from them and I am very happy with the sails.
Standing rigging
Am I right in guessing you didn't get a survey done when you bought the boat? If so, you really should take the rig to a professional rigger to have both the standing and running rigging inspected. For your size boat it should be quite inexpensive and a very good investment.
Am I right in guessing you didn't get a survey done when you bought the boat? If so, you really should take the rig to a professional rigger to have both the standing and running rigging inspected. For your size boat it should be quite inexpensive and a very good investment.
Sail Replacement
If your furler is OK there is no need to replace it. Like almost anything else, sails have a finite life. I can second the recommendation for Crusing Sails Direct. They provide a quality (North Sails) product for a reasonable price. It's where I'm going for my next sail purchase.
If your furler is OK there is no need to replace it. Like almost anything else, sails have a finite life. I can second the recommendation for Crusing Sails Direct. They provide a quality (North Sails) product for a reasonable price. It's where I'm going for my next sail purchase.
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