Bleach in water tanks

NYSail

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Jan 6, 2006
3,064
Beneteau 423 Mt. Sinai, NY
Hello all.
So every season I thoroughly clean my water tanks using bleach with several good rinses. This also includes running the mixture into all hoses and letting sit. Water tanks are clean and I have no issue using it for drinking / cooking. A friend does same however he also adds 2/3 tsp of bleach per 8 gallons when he fills up. How many folks do this…… doesn’t seem like a bad idea to keep things non toxic just in case. Btw for drinking we do run the water through a “Epic Water filter”
Thanks
greg
 
Jan 11, 2014
11,436
Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
If the water is coming from a reliable municipal supply, I don't think adding bleach adds much. Flush the hose before filling. If the water source was somehow suspect, then perhaps.

Replace the O rings on the fill caps, when they deteriorate water from the deck can enter the tank. That would be a cause of contamination.
 
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Dec 25, 2000
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Hunter Passage 42 Shelter Bay, WA
The first and only time I commissioned our water tanks was when we took possession from the PO in 2002. I also alternate tank use after each fill up. Never added bleach to a fill up. Water tastes fresh and odor free to this day.
 
Oct 24, 2010
2,405
Hunter 30 Everett, WA
If the water comes from a municipal supply, it may already contain chlorine. Adding more can make you sick. Our Washington State Health folks say to add one teaspoon of bleach per gallon of cold water and leave it to sit for 40 minutes, then flush well. I usually do this annually. Make sure to flush the hot water heater as well to get the bleach taste and smell out.
 

NYSail

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Jan 6, 2006
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Beneteau 423 Mt. Sinai, NY
If the water is coming from a reliable municipal supply, I don't think adding bleach adds much. Flush the hose before filling. If the water source was somehow suspect, then perhaps.

Replace the O rings on the fill caps, when they deteriorate water from the deck can enter the tank. That would be a cause of contamination.
Yes always run the hose for a couple minutes to make sure I’m at the water from the main line and not the dock plastic line. Hose stays on my boat till I use and always empty. O rings fine. Water comes from reliable source.
 

dLj

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Mar 23, 2017
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Belliure 41 Sailing back to the Chesapeake
I do not like the taste of Cl so I avoid adding it after cleaning. A water filter is a good idea for drinking depending upon where you are. If you are typically filling at a reliable source, then not needed, but if you travel and may have unknown reliability, then a filter seems like a really good idea. I prefer not to chlorinate my water.

dj
 
Jan 11, 2014
11,436
Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
For under $20 on Amazon you can get a Total Dissolved Solids meter which will yield an estimate of how clean the water is. It won't assess pathogens, however if the water has low TDS levels and it is from a municipal source it is likely safe.
 
Jun 21, 2004
2,533
Beneteau 343 Slidell, LA
Sanitize my tanks annually as per instructions from Peggy Hall's book. Bleach is added to filled tank and allowed to circulate and remain in lines for 8 hours. Tank is then emptied and wiped clean, refill tank with filtered municipal water, after water hose is allowed to run for about 5 minutes prior to inserting it into deck fill. Diluted bleach solution is finally flushed from onboard water lines. I do not add additional chlorine to the water after the tanks are refilled. Have never had an issue and water is clean with no odor. I usually have bottled water onboard for drinking, same as at home.
 
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Jan 7, 2011
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Oday 322 East Chicago, IN
I usually add a splash of bleach to each 30-gallon tank when I fill it. I don’t turn the water over fast enough, and I found that by the time I switched to a full tank, it was a little “skunky”, particularly in the hot summer.

I don’t drink the water, but I do brush my teeth and wash dishes with it. I can smell a faint hint of chlorine, but it is preferable to the skunky smell I get without the bleach.

I could use one and refill it twice as often, and maybe I wouldn’t need the disinfectant, but I haven’t tried that yet.

Greg
 
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Feb 2, 2010
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Island Packet 37 Hull #2 Harpswell Me
First, what is your tank made of? if its aluminum then bleach is the last thing you want anywhere near it. Clean the pipes with bleach, as per Peggy but not aluminum tanks.
 

NYSail

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Jan 6, 2006
3,064
Beneteau 423 Mt. Sinai, NY
Plastic tanks. And like I said I clean them once a year with bleach including the lines with a great flush. I also use my water extensively so it never sits for long periods. I’ve never had a problem with bad water I was just interested when my friend told me that he puts bleach in his. Thanks for all the responses guys!
 
Jan 22, 2008
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Hunter 30_88-94 Ipswich, Ma MA
We do the Peggie‘s shock treatment every Spring when we launch.
Use 4oz. of bleach per 10 gallons of water.
Run the taps to fill the lines and till you can smell the bleach.
Let it sit for no more than 24hrs.
Then dump the tank, flush it out, then refill.
 
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So many of you have misquoted important parts of the fresh water recommissioning instructions from my book that I'm posting those instructions here:

Although most people think only in terms of the tank, the plumbing is actually the source of most foul water, because the molds, mildew, fungi and bacteria which cause it thrive in damp dark places, not under water. Many people—and even some boat manufacturers—believe that keeping the tanks empty reduce the problem, but an empty water tank only provides another damp dark home for those “critters.”

There are all kinds of products sold that claim to keep onboard water fresh, but all that’s really necessary is an annual or in especially warm climates, semi-annual recommissioning of the entire system—tank and plumbing. The following recommendations conform to section 10.8 in the A-1 192 code covering electrical, plumbing, and heating of recreational vehicles (which includes boats). The solution is approved and recommended by competent health officials. It may be used in a new system a used one that has not been used for a period of time, or one that may have been contaminated.

Before beginning, turn off hot water heater at the breaker; do not turn it on again until the entire recommissioning is complete.

Although most people think only in terms of the tank, the plumbing is actually the source of most foul water, because the molds, mildew, fungi and bacteria which cause it thrive in damp dark places, not under water. Many people—and even some boat manufacturers—believe that keeping the tanks empty reduce the problem, but an empty water tank only provides another damp dark home for those “critters.”

There are all kinds of products sold that claim to keep onboard water fresh, but all that’s really necessary is an annual or in especially warm climates, semi-annual recommissioning of the entire system—tank and plumbing. The following recommendations conform to section 10.8 in the A-1 192 code covering electrical, plumbing, and heating of recreational vehicles (which includes boats). The solution is approved and recommended by competent health officials. It may be used in a new system a used one that has not been used for a period of time, or one that may have been contaminated.

Before beginning, turn off hot water heater at the breaker; do not turn it on again until the entire recommissioning is complete.

Icemakers should be left running to allow cleaning out of the water feed line; however the first two buckets of ice—the bucket generated during recommissioning and the first bucketful afterward--should be discarded.

1. Prepare a chlorine solution using one gallon of water and 1/4 cup (2 oz) Clorox or Purex household bleach (5% sodium Hypochlorite solution ). With tank empty, pour chlorine solution into tank. Use one gallon of solution for each 5 gallons of tank capacity. (Simpler way to calculate: 1 quart bleach/50 gal water tank capacity)

2. Complete filling of tank with fresh water. Open each faucet and drain cock until air has been released and the entire system is filled. Do not turn off the pump; it must remain on to keep the system pressurized and the solution in the lines

3. Allow to stand for at least three hours, but no longer than 24 hours.

4 Drain through every faucet on the boat (and if you haven't done this in a while, it's a good idea to remove any diffusion screens from the faucets, because what's likely to come out will clog them). Fill the tank again with fresh water only, drain again through every faucet on the boat.

5. To remove excess chlorine taste or odor which might remain, prepare a solution of one quart white vinegar to five gallons water and allow this solution to agitate in tank for several days by vehicle motion.

6. Drain tank again through every faucet, and flush the lines again by fill the tank 1/4-1/2 full and again flushing with potable water.

An annual or semi-annual recommissioning according to the above directions is all that should be necessary to keep your water tasting and smelling as good as anything that comes out of any faucet on land. If you need to improve on that, install a water filter. Just remember that a filter is not a substitute for cleaning out the system, and that filters require regular inspection and cleaning or replacement.

To keep the water system cleaner longer, use your fresh water...keep water flowing through system. The molds, fungi, and bacteria only start to grow in hoses that aren't being used. Before filling the tank each time, always let the dock water run for at least 15 minutes first...the same critters that like the lines on your boat LOVE the dock supply line and your hose that sit in the warm sun, and you certainly don't want to transfer water that's been sitting in the dock supply line to your boat's system. So let the water run long enough to flush out all the water that's been standing in them so that what goes into your boat is coming straight from the water main.

Finally, while the molds, fungi and bacteria in onboard water systems here in the US may not be pleasant, we're dealing only with aesthetics...water purity isn't an issue here--or in most developed nations...the water supply has already been purified (unless you're using well-water). However, when cruising out of the country, it's a good idea to know what you're putting in your tanks...and if you're in any doubt, boil all water that's to be drunk or used to wash dishes, and/or treat each tankful to purify. It's even more important in these areas to let the water run before putting it in the tank, because any harmful bacteria will REALLY proliferate in water hoses left sitting on the dock.


These are not MY instructions...I found them in the owners manual for a 1985 Sea Ray I owned...you can also find them on most of the RV sites.

People have expressed concern about using this method to recommission aluminum tanks. While bleach (chlorine) IS corrosive, it’s effects are are cumulative. So the effect of an annual or semi-annual "shock treatment" that's completely flushed out of the tank within a few hours is negligible compared to the cumulative effect of holding chlorinated city water in the tank for years. Nevertheless, it's a good idea to mix the total amount of bleach in a few gallons of water before putting it into either a stainless or aluminum tank.

People have also expressed concern about the potential damage to rubber and neoprene water pump parts. Again—the cumulative effect of carrying chlorinated water is far more damaging over time than the occasional “shock treatment.” And it’s that cumulative effect that makes it a VERY bad idea to add a little bleach to each fill. Not only does it damage the system, but unless you add enough to make your water taste and smell like a laundry, it’s not enough to do any good. Even if it were, any “purifying” properties in chlorine evaporate within 24 hours, leaving behind only the corrosive properties.

--Peggie