Bilge pumps

Oct 30, 2019
1,021
I put in a second electric bilge pump recently. I only had one pump, a Rule
800 of uncertain age, and I wanted some backup besides a bucket. I figured
the most likely scenario where a pump would be necessary would be taking on
water while sailing. If I spring a leak on the mooring the boat will sink
even as soon as the batteries run down, so there's not much I can do about
that common scenario besides attention to hoses etc.

I glued two 5 inch cleats on either side of the bilge sump and screwed a
board across. I mounted the old Rule 800 and float switch on the board. Now
I can see and inspect the upper pump and switch easily. This pump will run
only in an emergency so I can count on it being unclogged when the time
comes. Also I can clear it easily. The pump is about ten inches below the
top of the batteries. Then I mounted a new Rule 1100 at the bottom of the
sump. It's on its own elec circuit. It is plumbed to 1 1/8 I.D. sanitary
hose and exhausts out a fitting at the upper port corner of the transom.
It's a nice straight run and the pump should really move water, especially
with the engine running. The pump is one of the new ones w/o a float switch
- it runs momentarily every ten minutes and stays on if it senses a load. I
heard that these had given some trouble but were now said to be perfected.
I like not having to worry about a float switch getting jammed up in the
murkey depths of the bilge. It uses .25 amp hours per day not including
actual pumping. I have two new 105 amp hour batteries so this drain is ok.

Cost: $60.00 pump, $19.00 13' hose (1/2 price; usually $3.00 per foot),
switch $8.00. There are cheaper hoses but the sanitary hose was recommended
and was clearly the least likely to kink.

This 2 pump arrangement has lots of capacity and is a clean, inspectable
layout.
 
May 9, 2011
1,000
Sounds like a good job. Interesting circuitry on the new pump.
Never heard of it before.

I put a small West Marine pump in the bilge, with two float switches
wired to a relay per Gladstone's "More Boatkeeper." The switches and
pump are mounted on a bronze flat bar assembly that I can unbolt and
lift from the bilge. The 2 switches give a lot longer cycling time
and a lot less wear, (for infrequent removal of rain accumulation.)
With the relay, the current through the switches is tiny, not the
pump motor current. I could pump a limited leak at my dock until the
pump wore out, in my absence, by virtue of shorepower and an
automatic battery charger.

For serious dewatering underway, after a catastrophic hull trauma,
nothing short of a gasoline powered trash pump will keep us afloat
for very long.
 
Oct 30, 2019
1,459
I don't have a hand bilge pump (except the little original pump) and I am thinking of adding a diaphragm pump, bulkhead mounted to the transverse bulkhead just aft of the tiller post, where it would be out of the way but usable with a removable handle. Any thoughts? I know some pumps are mounted below, but it is hard to see where one could do that without cluttering up the boat.Nicholas Walsh
Nicholas H. Walsh P.A.
111 Commercial Street
Portland Maine 04101
Tel. 207/772-2191
fax 207/774-3940

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Feb 28, 2006
127
Nicholas,

My boat has that arrangement only the pump (a whaler gusher) is mounted
inside the Lazzerette high on the starboard side and therefore well out of
the way but still very reachable. The out flow pipe runs accross along the
bulk head to a through-hull on the port side. The boat came to me this way
and, although I've replaced the pump, I've found no reason to change the
basic arrangment.

Garry
Raven V.2427
 
Oct 2, 2005
465
A Whale Gusher will fit comfortably in the locker behind the aft
seat back on the port side. The pump has 4 mounting holes on one side
of the bracket and 2 on the other side. The four hole side is mounted
against the stove cabinet on a 1" or so thick block. The block moves
the pump far enough forward that no alteration of the cabinetry is
necessary. The two hole side is bolted to the seat back on a similar
block. My boat had a shelf in that space which I removed, cut in half
and reinstalled (turning one of the cut pieces vertically to support
the shorter shelf's loose end.) The installation is not visible until
the seat back is removed. The suction hose turns under the stove
cabinet and is coiled in the bottom most locker, against the hull.
Should it be needed it would be retrieved from there and dropped into
the bilge. The discharge hose goes up through the book shelf and
turns back into the cabinet behind the stove (on top of the shelf),
through the lazarette where it is supported inside the cockpit
coaming, and exits high on the transom. There is a separate pump
mounted under the cockpit seat and operated via a deck fitting but
each pump has it's own discharge so that both could be operated
simultaneously.
Craig
 
Jan 28, 2001
694
Hi Alan and Felicity. Would you happen to know of a source for Henderson parts? I've ben told that Whale owns them now. Haven't been able to find a source. No reply from Whale when I email them. Walt
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