Best O'Day Trailor Sailor

Jun 19, 2013
16
Oday DaySailorII Lake Arthur, PA
This is a general question to the O'Day audience. What, in your opinion is the best overall O'Day sailboat that can be easily towed and launched, not exceeding 2200# total weight, including trailor, has a ballasted centerboard/swing keel, comfortably sleep two adults, easy to sail and rig solo, and generally speaking is easy to maintain and repair.

It would be sailed inland on small to mid-size lakes, up to the size of Lake Erie.

I currently own and sail an O'Day Day Sailor II, and am considering an upgrade this coming year. Please indicate what years are the best to consider as well. Thank you!
 
Nov 9, 2012
2,500
Oday 192 Lake Nockamixon
Well, obviously, I'm going to say that the 192 is the best. It's the one I have, and the one I love.
 
Jan 22, 2008
507
Catalina 310 278 Lyndeborough NH
Well, obviously, I'm going to say that the 192 is the best. It's the one I have, and the one I love.
Actually, the O'Day 19 (1979-1984) is better than the 192 (1984-1989?). It's the one I have, and the one I love. <grin> But we probably all believe that about our boats.

The O'Day 19 needs only 12" of water with the centerboard up. I think the cockpit is a little bit larger (longer) and can fit four adults easily. I can step the mast quickly and be sailing in 20 minutes.

Another option is the Mariner 19. It is the Rhodes 19 hull with a real cabin just like the O'Day 19 and 192. Better yet, it is still in production by Stuart Marine (www.stuartmarine.com). It is available as either a centerboard or fixed keel.

When going in larger bodies of water, I prefer my Capri-22 with a fixed keel. A 22 foot boat is a nice size but they typically weigh 2200 lbs before adding the motor, trailer, etc. It like the O'Day 22 can be trailer sailed, but rigging solo is best when using a gin pole or similar device. Mine stays moored all season.

If you will be sailing mostly in lakes, stay with a 19 footer. You will find youself sailing more often!
 
May 17, 2011
76
Oday Daysailer II, Rhodes 19, Mariner 2+2 Dripping Springs
I would say the 19' Mariner. I too have a Day Sailer II, but I also have a 1973 Mariner (and a Rhodes 19). The Mariner, like the Day Sailer is still in production which means parts (if needed) are readily available from the current Builder, Stuart Marine and from D&R Marine. The Mariner Class Assoc. is an active group with a good forum. Association membership is $15 per year. Also, like the Day Sailer they are a "one design" class, which means basic specs don't change over time, although there are some appearence changes as can be seen with Day Sailer I's, II's, and III's.

The Mariners have been in continuous production since 1963 to present. They are available in both a centerboard model and a keel model. The centerboard model has a 10" draft with the board up, 4'-11" board down. The keel model draft is 3'-3". The keel weighs 315 lbs. Sail area is a 185 sf. The mast is deck stepped.

As for the different years, as to which is better, I prefer any of the 2+2 models centerboard models which date after late 1968. The pre-Stuart Marine Mariners had a 165 lb. iron centerboard with 200 lbs. of lead ballast along the centerboard trunk. The Stuart Mariners use a 70 lb. fiberglass centerboard with around 300 lbs. of lead ballast (might be wrong on the lead ballast).

The boats from 1963 to early 1968 had a cabin with two berths, head, and stove area. It had no cabin bulkhead (there are kits to add one). The cabin has a stepped appearence with a forward ventilation hatch. There is a wood deck in the cockpit and cabin. There is a deck overhang in the stern (similar to a Day Sailer I). There are wood coamings along the cockpit. There is a ice box molded into one cockpit bench with a storage hatch on the other side.

The boats from late 1968 to early 1972 are the first of the 2+2 models. The 2+2 model went to a 8.5 foot fiberglass self bailing cockpit (similar to a DSII cockpit) with fiberglass rails with a wood cap. The bailers are above the waterline at the forward end. The cabin is enclosed and has an entry hatch. There are 4 berths in the cabin, a V-berth (for 2) and 2 quarter berths that extend under the cockpit. The V-berth is open, with a arch under the mast as a support. There is also a place for a head, a water storage area, and a sink. In the cockpit, there are two large storage lockers and an icebox in the stern. The cabin is still stepped in appearence and has a forward hatch.

The boats from late 1972 onward including the Stuart produced boats have a redesigned cabin that did away with the stepped appearence. They also did away with the forward hatch. Inside the cabin is the same as the previous model, except an icebox was added. Also the support arch was replaced with a compression post to support the mast. In the cockpit, there is only one large storage hatch (except for late 1972 and the 1973 model which don't have any hatches). I added hatches to my 1973 model.

I sailed my Mariner on the Texas 200 in June with 2 crew on board. The Texas 200 is 5 days of sailing / 4 nights of camping going about 200 miles up the Texas coast. We all slept on board. My crew destroyed their tent the first night and slept comfortably in the cockpit. I slept with the gear, supplies and coolers (including a big Yeti cooler) in the cabin. We sailed the Mariner thru some very shallow areas.

John
 
Jun 19, 2013
16
Oday DaySailorII Lake Arthur, PA
Thanks to all who have shared their thoughts and advice. Sounds like the Mariner would fit the bill nicely. I definitely want some ballast weight to assist with heeling, as the Day Sailor lacks that benefit.
 
Nov 9, 2012
2,500
Oday 192 Lake Nockamixon
I have slept on board my 192 with girlfriend many times. Has portapotty, space for cooler under bridge deck. I have full suite of amenities with dinnerware, Magma grill, butane single burner for cooking coffee and breakfast. I have slept in quarter berth by myself, but prefer the v-berth. The only problem is compression post, or "birth control pole" as GF calls it...
 
Jan 22, 2008
507
Catalina 310 278 Lyndeborough NH
The only problem is compression post, or "birth control pole" as GF calls it...
Ahh! The O'Day 19 does not have the compression post. But since my wife and I are over 60, the birth control aspect would not bother us.

There were only 525 O'Day 19s built. I'm not sure how many O'Day 192 were built but probably not a much different number.

Mariners on the other hand have probably "thousands" built. The 192 shares the same beam with the Mariner and Rhodes. The 19 is about 8 inches wider. All four models use similar mast, boom, and rigging.

The 19 has 300 lbs of lead ballast in a shallow shoal keel plus 50 lbs in a fiberglass center board. The 192 has 400 lbs of lead ballast in a deeper shoal keel and the same centerboard. The Mariner has only 250 lbs of lead ballast in the current new boats. The centerboard is 70 lbs.

The Mariner has a nice fin keel with a bulb. Draft is only 3' 3". Unless your sailing area is real shallow, launching this fin keel version is not all that much different than many of the power boats with similar drafts. The keel will bring much more stability in the bigger water.

Any of these boats would be a great choice. Price and availability can steer you to one over the others.

The only ones I would be careful about are the earlier Mariners and Rhodes that were built with wooden ribs. If they have started to rot, they will need to be replaced. But that is the only reason.

Rhodes 19 is regularly raced in One Design regattas. They keep their value and have higher pricing.

I found my O'Day 19 with a trailer and outboard for $1600 in 2006. It needed only a good cleaning to be sailable. New sails and rigging are on the list but may wait for another year. I want to try out a few more variations before getting new stuff. I use the Rhodes 19 as an inspiration for different rigging options.

Good Luck - This is the time of the year to find a good deal...