I am looking for a trailerable sailboat that will make Bahamas trips from Florida..any suggestions...looking at the Macgregor26x and others...The majority of my sailing is in this region in boats from 25 to 34...probably 25-30 crossings of the Gulf stream over the last 15 years.
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LaDonna Bubak - CatalinaOwners.com
Just about any boat will do it
You have to watch the weather & make sure everything is functioning properly on the boat but just about any mid-size boat could make that trip. Go with the one you like the best! LaDonna
You have to watch the weather & make sure everything is functioning properly on the boat but just about any mid-size boat could make that trip. Go with the one you like the best! LaDonna
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Greg
Bahamas in a Potter 19
This is really more of a question. I have just read where a Potter 19 sail from Florida to the Bahamas. I also read where a Potter 19 sail from California to Hawaii. Are these boats any more stable than my C22?
This is really more of a question. I have just read where a Potter 19 sail from Florida to the Bahamas. I also read where a Potter 19 sail from California to Hawaii. Are these boats any more stable than my C22?
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C-22/P-19 comparative numbers
Bill Teplow's 24 day passage from SanFrancisco to Hilo, HI. in a 19' Potter begs the question, could you do it in a Catalina 22? Here are some numbers to look at: C-22 P-19 Length waterline 19.33 16.75 Empty displacement 2290 1225 Weight of swingkeel 452 370 Beam 8.33 7.5 Sail Area 206 160 Disp/Length 141.5 119 SA/D 22.2 19 Ballast Ratio 19.75 30.2 Theoret. SA at 20 knt 97 52 Hullspeed Theoret. 5.9 5.5 Other: pos. floatation Analysis: The P19 is unsinkable.It has a heavier keel for stability but the total numbers favor the C-22--less corky, more seaworthy, faster, bigger. Low D/L ratios tell us neither are bluewater boats. I read recently of a C-22 that went to the Bahamas. Crossing the GulfStream was the challenge. So yesssss, it can be done, but is it sailing or stunting?
Bill Teplow's 24 day passage from SanFrancisco to Hilo, HI. in a 19' Potter begs the question, could you do it in a Catalina 22? Here are some numbers to look at: C-22 P-19 Length waterline 19.33 16.75 Empty displacement 2290 1225 Weight of swingkeel 452 370 Beam 8.33 7.5 Sail Area 206 160 Disp/Length 141.5 119 SA/D 22.2 19 Ballast Ratio 19.75 30.2 Theoret. SA at 20 knt 97 52 Hullspeed Theoret. 5.9 5.5 Other: pos. floatation Analysis: The P19 is unsinkable.It has a heavier keel for stability but the total numbers favor the C-22--less corky, more seaworthy, faster, bigger. Low D/L ratios tell us neither are bluewater boats. I read recently of a C-22 that went to the Bahamas. Crossing the GulfStream was the challenge. So yesssss, it can be done, but is it sailing or stunting?
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Rhodes 22 numbers
Never seen one but the numbers are quite good for a trailer sailer boat: It has an LWL of 20' SA of 210 ft2,and an 8' beam, similar to the C-22, but is heavier (2900) with heavier keel (700lbs) and gives a very seaworthy rating of D/L = 188.75 (!!) with a SA/D of a very bluewater 16.52. Speed about the same, 5.8 knots. No idea how this performs but as far as trailer boats go, you may want to check one out because it has inherent seaworthiness beyond little Hunters and McGregors, and even edges out Practical Sailor #1 choice for a trailer sailer, the C-22
Never seen one but the numbers are quite good for a trailer sailer boat: It has an LWL of 20' SA of 210 ft2,and an 8' beam, similar to the C-22, but is heavier (2900) with heavier keel (700lbs) and gives a very seaworthy rating of D/L = 188.75 (!!) with a SA/D of a very bluewater 16.52. Speed about the same, 5.8 knots. No idea how this performs but as far as trailer boats go, you may want to check one out because it has inherent seaworthiness beyond little Hunters and McGregors, and even edges out Practical Sailor #1 choice for a trailer sailer, the C-22
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Dennis
As far as that goes!
If a person has the moxie, anything can go anywhere. There was a report a short time ago about a man trying to sail a 5 footer around the world! Now that is a stunt! I have heard of a lot of small boats below 20 feet, open and closed, going over to the Bahamas. There is also on line, a site for Mini cruisers that show 12 footers and such in the Bahamas.
If a person has the moxie, anything can go anywhere. There was a report a short time ago about a man trying to sail a 5 footer around the world! Now that is a stunt! I have heard of a lot of small boats below 20 feet, open and closed, going over to the Bahamas. There is also on line, a site for Mini cruisers that show 12 footers and such in the Bahamas.
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Seaworthiness and boatlength
Seaworthiness and boatlength are not completely related. I sailed a Wayfarer that was 16' long open cockpit in some nasty crap, reefed and hiked out, no problems. The boat has been sailed from England to Iceland, from Scotland to Norway. It makes a hop to the Bahamas look like a Sunday picnic. We each get to decide what stunting is. Bill Teplow's trip to Hawaii in a Potter 19 was quite calculated and he prepared well, risks were understood and reduced by preparation and training. Same goes for a trip to The Bahamas. I've no doubt someone will do it one day in a Potter 15 or something like it. Since I took it upon myself to research the numbers on these trailer boats, and post the info, I wanted everyone to know I do not condone coastal sailboats in blue water. that's all!
Seaworthiness and boatlength are not completely related. I sailed a Wayfarer that was 16' long open cockpit in some nasty crap, reefed and hiked out, no problems. The boat has been sailed from England to Iceland, from Scotland to Norway. It makes a hop to the Bahamas look like a Sunday picnic. We each get to decide what stunting is. Bill Teplow's trip to Hawaii in a Potter 19 was quite calculated and he prepared well, risks were understood and reduced by preparation and training. Same goes for a trip to The Bahamas. I've no doubt someone will do it one day in a Potter 15 or something like it. Since I took it upon myself to research the numbers on these trailer boats, and post the info, I wanted everyone to know I do not condone coastal sailboats in blue water. that's all!
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How does a 26X stack up?
Ben Allen, cannot help but note the number of McGregors making the trip over from your recommended website. comparing the 26X to a Catalina 22, IT has a D/L ratio of 137.6 compared to 141.5, or nearly the same, a SA/D very nearly identical, but due to waterballast a Ballast ratio of 37% instead of 19.75% which is a big advantage. The waterline is longer, so the speed is better by half a knot. The Theoretical sail area is larger and the total ballasted displacement is higher. With the usual caveats of sailors, weather and fit&finish, the McGregor looks pretty darn good for a Bahamas trip. Dennis and Donna's remarks taken to heart. Play hard, play safe and let us know what it was like! tomD
Ben Allen, cannot help but note the number of McGregors making the trip over from your recommended website. comparing the 26X to a Catalina 22, IT has a D/L ratio of 137.6 compared to 141.5, or nearly the same, a SA/D very nearly identical, but due to waterballast a Ballast ratio of 37% instead of 19.75% which is a big advantage. The waterline is longer, so the speed is better by half a knot. The Theoretical sail area is larger and the total ballasted displacement is higher. With the usual caveats of sailors, weather and fit&finish, the McGregor looks pretty darn good for a Bahamas trip. Dennis and Donna's remarks taken to heart. Play hard, play safe and let us know what it was like! tomD
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Dennis
12 and 16 footers and the Bahamas!
There is a mini cruiser site on line where people take their 12 and 16 footers through the Bahamas all the time! I would want something a little bigger under me, but it is done all the time! I am not trying to down play any dangers that might go with it, but one must weigh out the positive and negative sides!
There is a mini cruiser site on line where people take their 12 and 16 footers through the Bahamas all the time! I would want something a little bigger under me, but it is done all the time! I am not trying to down play any dangers that might go with it, but one must weigh out the positive and negative sides!
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