When my starter slowed so much that it would no longer start the engine, I checked everyhing else. New wires, heavier gauge and marine quality, new starter battery, new connectors, etc. Noting helpled. Now I know why! The starter is bad. Several of the field coils have shorted and the armiture is slightly out of alignment. So, it will take a serious rebuild, not just brushes and springs. Can anyone help? I'm looking for suggestions on someone that could rebuild it, preferably in Miami/Ft. Lauderdale. Or where to I buy one, without mortgaging the boat. I'll try Torreson's in the morning, and the yellow pages, but any advice is welcomed. And, if you have any idea of what this should cost me, you'll help me sleep tonight!
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Gordon Torresen
3GM30F starter
What you describe doesn't sound rebuildable for less than the cost of new, which is $446.99. We do have one in stock and will await your call.
What you describe doesn't sound rebuildable for less than the cost of new, which is $446.99. We do have one in stock and will await your call.
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Gordon Torresen
3GM30F starter - page 2
I know of no source for rebuilt starters. We frequently rebuild them but the time required usually is not available, cruises don't like to be interrupted for any length of time. I would like to set up a stock of rebuilts but need some repairable cores to start with. If you can do without your boat for a couple of weeks, ship your starter to us and we will see if it can be rebuilt for less than the cost of new. If you can't wait, buy the new one but ship the old one to us anyway. If it is rebuildable, we'll buy it, rebuild it and put it in stock for the next unfortunate owner. If you choose to send the old one, we'll pay the freight. If anyone else has a rebuildable starter motor, the same deal goes.
I know of no source for rebuilt starters. We frequently rebuild them but the time required usually is not available, cruises don't like to be interrupted for any length of time. I would like to set up a stock of rebuilts but need some repairable cores to start with. If you can do without your boat for a couple of weeks, ship your starter to us and we will see if it can be rebuilt for less than the cost of new. If you can't wait, buy the new one but ship the old one to us anyway. If it is rebuildable, we'll buy it, rebuild it and put it in stock for the next unfortunate owner. If you choose to send the old one, we'll pay the freight. If anyone else has a rebuildable starter motor, the same deal goes.
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Ron Dague
Bad Starter Update
Maybe no one else cares, but I thought I'd let you know what I found. The local Yanmar dealer says that he can get a rebuilt starter from the factory for my 3GM30F, price $275 plus my old starter in exchange. Per another Hunter owner, (thanks Henry!), I tried Capitol Electric in Pompano, FL. They will rebuild my starter in 48 hours or less, for $75. Thats rewinding, new brushes, bushings, etc. Or, they can order one, brand new (thus no core charge/exchange) for $150. Now, I don't know what brand the replacement is, but for the price savings, I'll probably buy their new one, and have my rebuilt as a back up. Sure beats the $440 or more for the Yanmar replacement!
Maybe no one else cares, but I thought I'd let you know what I found. The local Yanmar dealer says that he can get a rebuilt starter from the factory for my 3GM30F, price $275 plus my old starter in exchange. Per another Hunter owner, (thanks Henry!), I tried Capitol Electric in Pompano, FL. They will rebuild my starter in 48 hours or less, for $75. Thats rewinding, new brushes, bushings, etc. Or, they can order one, brand new (thus no core charge/exchange) for $150. Now, I don't know what brand the replacement is, but for the price savings, I'll probably buy their new one, and have my rebuilt as a back up. Sure beats the $440 or more for the Yanmar replacement!
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Gordon Torresen
Starter repaired
I'm glad to see that you have found a low cost solution to your starter problem. Thanks for the input. I recall your earlier post that related the problems that you had with a low cost electric fuel pump used for bleeding. Let us know how your starters work out.
I'm glad to see that you have found a low cost solution to your starter problem. Thanks for the input. I recall your earlier post that related the problems that you had with a low cost electric fuel pump used for bleeding. Let us know how your starters work out.
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Ron Dague
Gordon, here's what I found:
I received a new starter today from Capitol Electric in Pompano, FL. The cost was $134.00, and it was a bolt in replacement, looks and fits identical. And new, not a rebuild. Oh, old starter could not be rebuilt because of damage to the armiture. I had concerns about the replacement not being appropriate for marine use, feaing it might be of lessor quality. (You might recall from earlier postings that the previous owner had put in a cheap in-line fule pump that leaked, that I have removed.) Well, being the curious type, I took the new starter apart. I had previously disassembled my original starter. They are identical. Even the stamping of the rear cover plate has the same indentations, same bolt holes, bolts sizes, etc. All of the interior parts look identical, same materials, and would be interchangeable. I am positive it is the same manufacturer as the original. And, the final test: I installed it and it works great. I'll be the first one to criticize the use of non-marine grade components in a boat, especially a boat used in salt water. I recently stripped over 250 feet of automotive wire, (not marine grade), out of my boat which had corroded it's entire length and become brittle. I also have installed a Balmar high output regulator. (So I'm not always cheap!) Maybe I'll have a rude surprise down the road and find this starter is not appropriate. But, I also know that most Japanese engine builder's outsource their electronic parts and motors. One example is the alternators on the Yanmar, mine being Hitachi. So, as long as you can find the original manufacturer, you eliminate a couple of middle-men, and save a lot. At least that's my take. No offense intended to the Yanmar Dealer's on this list. I appreciate George's advice and willingness to help. And, I have no doubt that the Yanmar starter he sells for around $440, is costing him 2 to 3 times what I paid for mine, before his legitimate mark-up. But with the savings on my new starter, I'm going to order another and keep it onboard, when I head to the islands. I'll still be $150 ahead, and have a spare. That's my 2 cents worth! (Okay, $150 worth).
I received a new starter today from Capitol Electric in Pompano, FL. The cost was $134.00, and it was a bolt in replacement, looks and fits identical. And new, not a rebuild. Oh, old starter could not be rebuilt because of damage to the armiture. I had concerns about the replacement not being appropriate for marine use, feaing it might be of lessor quality. (You might recall from earlier postings that the previous owner had put in a cheap in-line fule pump that leaked, that I have removed.) Well, being the curious type, I took the new starter apart. I had previously disassembled my original starter. They are identical. Even the stamping of the rear cover plate has the same indentations, same bolt holes, bolts sizes, etc. All of the interior parts look identical, same materials, and would be interchangeable. I am positive it is the same manufacturer as the original. And, the final test: I installed it and it works great. I'll be the first one to criticize the use of non-marine grade components in a boat, especially a boat used in salt water. I recently stripped over 250 feet of automotive wire, (not marine grade), out of my boat which had corroded it's entire length and become brittle. I also have installed a Balmar high output regulator. (So I'm not always cheap!) Maybe I'll have a rude surprise down the road and find this starter is not appropriate. But, I also know that most Japanese engine builder's outsource their electronic parts and motors. One example is the alternators on the Yanmar, mine being Hitachi. So, as long as you can find the original manufacturer, you eliminate a couple of middle-men, and save a lot. At least that's my take. No offense intended to the Yanmar Dealer's on this list. I appreciate George's advice and willingness to help. And, I have no doubt that the Yanmar starter he sells for around $440, is costing him 2 to 3 times what I paid for mine, before his legitimate mark-up. But with the savings on my new starter, I'm going to order another and keep it onboard, when I head to the islands. I'll still be $150 ahead, and have a spare. That's my 2 cents worth! (Okay, $150 worth).
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