Audio experts-Rock the Boat?

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Jun 30, 2004
446
Hunter 340 St Andrews Bay
Any experience with Rock the Boat audio sales? My CD player may have died and I think it is better to replace than repair. Has anyone purchased a unit from http://www.rocktheboataudio.com/ and if so, what was your experience?

Also, do the Satellite receivers that plug into the IPOD jack work well without adding antenna?
 

Benny

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Sep 27, 2008
1,149
Hunter 320 Tampa, FL
A Sony automotive type 4X40W AM/FM, CD, Auxiliary straight into two cabin and two cockpit speakers provide more than ample quality sound for our boat. It looks like these folks may cater more to the the party boats and the "look how much fun I'm having" crowd.
 

Tim R.

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May 27, 2004
3,626
Caliber 40 Long Range Cruiser Portland, Maine
I have waterproof speakers for the cockpit and car stereo stuff in the cabin. Don't waste your money on marinized stuff unless you expect it to get wet.
 
Dec 11, 2008
1,338
catalina C27 stillwater
Andy-

I see from your profile you are from Joplin. I assume Joplin MO, and therefore fresh water?

I work for a stereo company, specifically selling audio equipment to boat manufacturers. I have purchased product from Rock the Boat as a part of competitive analysis, and I can tell you my experience with them has been good, with timely and careful shipping. IF you decide to go that route, I think you will find the experience acceptable.


For your needs, assuming you are not sailing in a brackish or salt environment and assuming your stereo is down in the cabin, I will recommend that you will be fine with a normal car audio CD player, as Tim suggests. Much of the "water-proof" stuff is designed more for those exposed open applications typical of a family runabout, or for sailors and boaters in coastal regions.

Precautions are still in order. For the power and speaker wiring, make sure that the wires enter the back of the radio from either a low angle or bend the wires so that a drip loop is established. This will keep an water from getting in the radio on the wiring. Consider a light plastic sheet, (like from a plastic report binder) over the top of the installed radio to protect the "innards" from any possible drip leaks, like from a stanchion or other thru-bolted hardware. These simple precautions will prevent a lot of potential issues.



Your speakers on the other hand need to be designed for the environment, at least any cockpit speakears do. Look for speakers with sealed cones to prevent water from getting into the speaker motor. Look for magnetic shielding, especially if you are mounting speakers on a boat where a compass is used. Look for speakers that meet or exceed standard tests such as ASTM B117 and ASTM G154; these two tests are for all materials and test for durability in UV exposure and for a salt-fog environment. Look for aluminum or injection-molded speaker frames; ideally, look for a speaker that has as little ferrous material as possible, including the mounting hardware. Exposed steel will rust eventually and rust leaves nasty permanent stains in gelcoat. Try to verify that the mounting hardware is 304 or 316 stainless and if you have any doubts, use mounting screws from your local chandlery to guarantee you are getting good stainless.


I am unsure about the specifics of you satellite radio question. What sat radio receiver are you considering using? Most satellite installations I have seen use an antennna, but your application might very well be different.

Sorry for the expanded thoughts on the speakers, but it might prove worthwhile to you, or to somebody else.
 
Mar 12, 2008
557
Jeanneau 49 DS San Pedro, CA
After going through a couple of CD players in the past, I finally got smart and dumped the CD player in favor of a Fusion Electronics iPod player. I download everything I need to my iPod (an 80 gig Classic) and use that. No more CD's taking up space on the boat, and I have more music at my fingertips than ever before. If you find that you are using your iPod almost exclusively, you might want to take a look at the unit.
 
Jun 30, 2004
446
Hunter 340 St Andrews Bay
Thank Karl & Phil. Although I want to be IPOD/MP3 ready I'm having a hard time parting from my CD's. With a dead CD player in the truck and the boat I really should! Ideally I want a CD player with aux jack to plug in IPOD/MP3 or Satellite receiver. Just choosing one with all the different prices makes a tightwad like me frustrated! Why can't I get all that for $79 like the West Marine Dual player on sale! Pay cheap get cheap? And three years from now the IPOD sets will be $79 because the new Xpod will be out (something I made up). Hopefully my current speakers will last longer than the CD players. Thanks for your "directions", any further comments will be appreciated.
 
Oct 14, 2005
2,191
1983 Hunter H34 North East, MD
Andy...

I picked up the WM Dual AM/FM/CD (with MP3/USB connection) Deal with speakers for $99.00 after checking car stereo stores, Crutchfield, and Amazon. Was $179. And it's a marine unit to boot. Am replacing an older Craig car unit that lost a channel. Most retailers and the on-line sites were not competitive with that sale price.

My buddy's race boat needs new speakers so I get to play Santa Claus as well!!
 
Jun 30, 2004
446
Hunter 340 St Andrews Bay
Dan, your deal sounds pretty good. My head is buzzing after looking at all the options at Best Buy! There is not a local West Marine so I can't look,touch, feel the unit. You will have to be my radar man! Will that unit play files right off a thumb drive through the USB port? I'm leaning more and more in favor of that system and less interested in paying monthly for XM/Sirius when I won't listen to it that much (darn work days)
 
Jun 30, 2004
446
Hunter 340 St Andrews Bay
Another feature wanted

One problem with the Dual; a feature that I really want a wired remote-waterproof wired remote. I plan on mounting it on the pedestal. I don't see where that is available on those West Marine deals.
 

higgs

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Aug 24, 2005
3,713
Nassau 34 Olcott, NY
Go car stereo. Take your favorite CD down to Best Buy and high end dealer. Pick the unit that sound the best to you and meets your need. Simple.
 

higgs

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Aug 24, 2005
3,713
Nassau 34 Olcott, NY
I will add that my next stereo will include a remote so I can adjust volume from the cockpit.
 

Tim R.

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May 27, 2004
3,626
Caliber 40 Long Range Cruiser Portland, Maine
I bought a car stereo DVD player a couple of years ago. It has all the inputs I want(including ipod), a remote and a touch screen for ease of use. If I plan to live aboard in the future I can connect a larger remote screen and watch movies. I can burn all my music onto a few DVDs. I am not an ipod guy for fear of losing it although I do have most of my mp3s loaded on a micro SAN card in my phone(always have that and have yet to lose it). A nice feature is HD radio. Sounds much better than conventional.

Sounds great, and I can mute the cockpit speakers when needed. Cost about $200.

I should add that I do not listen to music unless I am at anchor. I have never wanted music while sailing so the wireless remote works fine from the cockpit by reflecting it into the cabin. No need to use it at the helm.
 
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Dec 11, 2008
1,338
catalina C27 stillwater
Andy-

If you are looking for a flexible unit, with wired remote capabilities, look at Sony. In their car lineup, the CDX-GT630UI is a USB-1-wire, (allows any MP3 device, including iPod) device that is satellite and HD radio ready. Their CDX-M60UI is pretty much the marine equivalent. Both can be had under $200.00 Both have CD playback, as well as thumb-drive playback.

Connect either head unit to the RM-X60M/R wired remote. The remote is submersible, and has a direct-sunlight-readable display that will show artist and track information for your iPod or other MP3 device.
 
Oct 14, 2005
2,191
1983 Hunter H34 North East, MD
Andy...

The Dual receiver I bought was the MXDM66, 200 watts with wireless remote. I haven't installed it yet as I'm building a whole new mounting panel for it and an auxilliary breaker panel.

The ad for it in the WM catalog says the USB port is for charging, not for a data connection. Thought about the jump stick approach, but will settle for the 3.5 jack input for my MP3 player. It has its own AC powered docking station with remote.

It just occurred to me that, with all the remotes, wirelss mikes, handhelds, and a GPS in the cockpit, I may need a helmsman to steer the boat while I fiddle with all the toys! Where's the fun in that?

Whoops! Forgot about "George", the Autohelm. But still...
 
Feb 26, 2004
23,093
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
Many other sources

I heard about www.Crutchfield.com on this forum some years ago and bought a Sony cassette :eek: deck and 10 disk CD changer. The cassette deck has a cassette for plugging in the iPod. It also has a wireless remote. It's satellite ready. Plays everything except 78 rpms! Also added a powered subwoofer last year.
 

BobM

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Jun 10, 2004
3,269
S2 9.2A Winthrop, MA
Take a pass on a cheap Sony

A Sony automotive type 4X40W AM/FM, CD, Auxiliary straight into two cabin and two cockpit speakers provide more than ample quality sound for our boat. It looks like these folks may cater more to the the party boats and the "look how much fun I'm having" crowd.
I put an inexpensive Sony deck in my Wife's car about two years ago. I stuck with Sony because I didn't want to redo the wiring. It lasted literally 30 days past its warranty and died. I thought perhaps water got into the door crossing the speaker wires but then read on line of numerous others with the same issue.

I bought a Kenwood for the boat. Their marine units are inexpensive and there is an optional inexpensive water proof wired remote. Usually the Red Sox game starts just as I head back in.
 
Dec 25, 2008
1,580
catalina 310 Elk River
So how is the Kenwood, which model? What speakers did you go with?
On the remote: how far did you extend the cables? How thick is the plastic face. Would UV break it down and then crack?
 
Oct 14, 2005
2,191
1983 Hunter H34 North East, MD
Andy & List: Dual's USB port...

I opened the box for the Dual unit I bought yesterdat, pulled out the wiring harness and put together barrier strips for the speaker and power connections.

After finding the diagram giving the color coding I looked further in the owner's manual and discovered that the USB port isn't just for charging your MP3 player. It has a Mode configuration set-up and can perform a "search" function on connected hardware for recorded material.

This tells me that it can read a "jump stick", "thumb drive" or whatever you want to call a USB data storage device as well as play from what's connected to the 3.5 mm jack.
 
Jun 30, 2004
446
Hunter 340 St Andrews Bay
Re: Andy & List: Dual's USB port...

Dan, that sounds great. Jumps sticks can hold a lot of music. Does that model have a wired remote control? When will you be able to "test drive" the unit?
 
Oct 14, 2005
2,191
1983 Hunter H34 North East, MD
Andy...

The remote that came with the Dual unit is wireless infrared. Should work from the cockpit to the nav station where the unit will be mounted.

I might be able to set it up on the workbench for a test run later this week. Will let you know what I find and how it works out. I don't have any music on a jump stick but may put a play list on one for the test.

I have great expectations and hope I'm not disappointed!
 
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