Are you a Skipper or a Captain?

dhays

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Aug 2, 2010
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Catalina C400 Gig Harbor, WA
Well, I did go through the effort and expense to get my USCG Captains license so I guess I can be called Captain. Prior to earning the right, I considered myself the skipper. Of course even as the captain, the admiral always has final say. Her request is my command :)
Someday I would like to get my Captains license (wish I had been logging sea hours all these years). If I ever do, the title "Captain" will suit me fine. When the CG calls me "Captain" I always feel it diminishes the efforts of folks like you who have earned the rank through your license.
 
Jun 14, 2010
307
Seafarer 29 Oologah, OK
At work they call me captain but that's only because I talk about sailing all the time.
IMO, the rank or status of Captain is of course earned; but on a private pleasure craft (a "Yacht", by definition) the owner is "captain" by courtesy. "Skipper" and "captain" are equivalent terms but skipper is informal.
 

jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
22,752
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
Dhays. All is not lost. If you really desire the CG license it only requires your dedication. The requirements are spelled out here: http://www.maritimeinstitute.com/license_requirements.html

You have maintained a 'captains log' of your sailing excursions. 4 hours min on the water is identified as a day. Within two years of active pursuit and study the CG license maybe possible.

But I do not think that the passage of time nor studies are what decides who is a captain on our boats. And that is one reason I proposed this thread.

Thank you for your thoughts. If addressed as Captain of your vessel could that not be recognition of the responsibility you have accepted. Not a thing to be taken lightly.
 

Nick

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Dec 8, 2015
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I am the Captain of course but then we call the wives 'Admiral' but sure know they haven't earned that term though I'd never would tell her that... :poke:
 

jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
22,752
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
Skipper there could be no confusion.
 

RussC

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Sep 11, 2015
1,602
Merit 22- Oregon lakes
Hogwash. You guys are not being honest. You tell me when the wife is on board, who is really in charge. I may be the skipper, but there is no doubt who is the captain. Its like the guy who states that my wife does all the driving, I just steer.
#1 My wife is the Admiral.

#2 Have you seen Ginger lately? Marianne is still hot today. but I digress ;)
 
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Jan 22, 2008
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Beneteau 323 Annapolis MD
Of course, iin case of an accident, the courts can say, "well, you're a licensed Captain (even if not operating as such) and you should have known better". My 2 cents.
 

jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
22,752
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
So. Can a Licensed Captain rated for the weight of the vessel aboard, there on holiday as a guest, be held responsible for an accident that occurs on the vessel?
 
Jun 21, 2004
2,765
Beneteau 343 Slidell, LA
I often thought about obtaining a USCG 6 Pack License. I have taken a bunch of US Power Squad, ASA, & USCG courses and have an abundance of on water hours over 35 years--- so I know that I could pass the test with a bit of review & meet the qualifications. But, I am a recreational sailor/boater; I have no intention to do deliveries, & no intention to teach sailing for profit. Since 911 there are US transportation-safety fees that must be paid & renewed , in addition to the USCG license fees that must be paid & renewed. Too much commotion & expense for the official Captain title. For me, "Skipper" is good enough! BUT, I like to the challenge aspect of it, so who knows, maybe I will take the test one day.
 
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Jan 22, 2008
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Islander Freeport, 41 Ketch Longmont, CO
Not to hijack this thread but to those who are thinking of a 6-pack or other USCG license, I've been on the water since I was 8 years old, I know the rules of the road and even many of the lights and sounds but I was surprised by the rigor called for to obtain my captains licenses. For example, when does a sailboat NOT have the right of way over a powerboat? turns out there are several occasions when this is true (restricted draft, act of fishing, crossing a channel, etc.), I spent about a year studying for the test and it was fun to learn everything I didn't know, I still refer back sometimes as a refresher.

As to the comments about the additional requirements since 911 they are true but have started to be relaxed a little. You can now get waivers for the TWIC card and a physical every 5 years isn't necessarily a bad thing. :) The initial sea time requirement goes back to 15 years of age and is cumulative over your lifetime assuming you can document your time.

All in all for me it was fun and educational, and getting the license allowed me to check one more thing of the bucket list. :)

Now back to our regularly scheduled programming. The Admiral's wishes are my command, I look more like Skipper than a Captain and definitely Mary Anne!!
 
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Nov 8, 2010
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Beneteau First 36.7 & 260 Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
Not to hijack this thread but to those who are thinking of a 6-pack or other USCG license, I've been on the water since I was 8 years old, I know the rules of the road and even many of the lights and sounds but I was surprised by the rigor called for to obtain my captains licenses. For example, when does a sailboat NOT have the right of way over a powerboat? turns out there are several occasions when this is true (restricted draft, act of fishing, crossing a channel, etc.), I spent about a year studying for the test and it was fun to learn everything I didn't know, I still refer back sometimes as a refresher.
IIRC there are eight levels of navigation priority, and a sailing sailboat is 7th. One from the bottom.
 

JamesG161

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Feb 14, 2014
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Hunter 430 Waveland, MS
Hogwash. You guys are not being honest. You tell me when the wife is on board, who is really in charge.
You would be wrong on my boat. Mine is named Admiral! She accepts immediate demotion when any marine authority is checking the boat.:p
Jim...
 

KZW

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May 17, 2014
831
Catalina 310 #307 Bluewater Bay, FL
Merriam--Webster
Definition of skipper
the master of a ship; especially : the master of a fishing, small trading, or pleasure boat
  1. Definition of captain
    • : a person who is in charge of a ship or an airplane

    I always regarded the Captain as the person in charge and the skipper as the guy who knew what he was doing!


Marianne, without question or hesitation!
 
Jan 18, 2016
782
Catalina 387 Dana Point
Many spouses feel that the term "Admiral" is somewhat demeaning. I call my spouse "dear".
I'm just the guy that owns the boat. Call me what ya want, but bring some drinks.

And why is it a question? Mary Anne all the way. She liked to have fun, she was smart, she had practical skills, and she was eyeball popping hot. Ginger wasn't even in the running.
 
Jun 6, 2006
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currently boatless wishing Harrington Harbor North, MD
A skipper is a person who has command of a boat or sea-craft or tug, more or less equivalent to "captain in charge aboard ship." At sea, or upon lakes and rivers, the skipper as shipmaster or captain has the absolute command over the crew. The skipper may or may not be the owner of the boat.
So The skipper is the is the guy that gets the dollars when the ship comes in. The captain is just in charge of bringing the boat in safe and sound. Skipper = business , captain = command
 
Aug 3, 2012
2,542
Performance Cruising Telstar 28 302 Watkins Glen
Marianne or Ginger... I would never look at another woman! My wife is beautiful and loving!

But... Ginger would never haul a sheet, so it's gotta be Marianne!

;)
 

51RD55

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Jul 13, 2015
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Hunter 31 Toronto
You guys are too funny...I haven't laughed like this in a long time. Being the Admiral, I'll go for the Professor. I agree that Ginger may be too high maintenance! The Skipper here would prefer Marianne if I were to hazard a guess.
 
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51RD55

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Jul 13, 2015
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Hunter 31 Toronto
Oops, he told me if everybody is being candid about their preferences, he's going for Marianne's daughter! LOL
 
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Jun 21, 2004
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Beneteau 343 Slidell, LA
I believe it is much easier to pass the basic 6 pack exam than years ago. Used to be that you went to a coast guard exam center and you took an exam that that included test questions from a bank of hundreds if not a few thousand possible questions; a vey difficult exam. Now the Coast Guard has licensed many firms that not only teach the classes but also conduct their own exam that is accepted by the Coast Guard. One can either take these classes at a given firm's instructional facility or even online. I have a strong hunch that they basically "teach the test." I know someone who had very little boating experience who did a 2 week class and passed all parts of the test without difficulty. I don't think that I would just present to a Coast Guard test center and take the test. Would probably sign up for a firm's online class and then take their test at a recognized test center (not the Coast Guard's center).