Are Security calls the newest puffery?

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Bill Roosa

Bill Roosa

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Jun 6, 2006
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I disagree Drew

IF the vessel is constrained by draft and not free to maneuver it would be worthy of a securite call to let others know they are entering the channel. They make these all the time coming out of Baltimore. Really helps if I'm crossing the channel since they are gong 20 knots and will be transiting the channel in about 10 minutes total. it is something I find useful to know.
 
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chewy352

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Aug 9, 2010
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In the market 25'-30' San Diego
Re: I disagree Drew

Does anyone have any recommendations on books to read on how to use VHF and radio etiquette?

I'm new to boating and I don't want to be the next "Pretentious."
 
kloudie1

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Nov 6, 2006
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Hunter 34 Mandeville Louisiana
LOL, too funny, Don.. Here, with New Orleans, and the Intercoastal Canal, there is a lot of commercial traffic around the waterways. I hear tugs pushing through narrow passes and tugs in heavily traveled places issuing this warning a lot; and it is helpful. I do hear big power yachts (mostly greater than 40 feet) also using the call properly when navigating twisty rivers/bayous where the corners are blind because of the thick vegitation..
 
Ross

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
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Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
The tugs moving the gravel barges on the river here just slip their dock lines and get under way. No radio calls, no whistles, just a big puff of diesel smoke and the out 1800 tons of gravel down the river. If they see a small boat in their path they blow a sustained blast on the whistle.
 
BarryL

BarryL

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May 21, 2004
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Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 409 Mt. Sinai, NY
Hey,

I heard this yesterday:

"security security security, this is a US Navy Submarine. I am headed to New London CT and will be transiting the race in 15 minutes. All vessels must keep a 500 yard exclusion zone. Any concerned vessels contact me on 12 or 16. US Navy out."

We were about 15 minutes past the sub and it was cool to see it go by. Too far for a picture though.

Barry
 
jeromeddd

jeromeddd

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Dec 10, 2009
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Samson C-farer 39 D'Escousse, NS
it is commonly used in the north passage in Lake Huron... the chanel in some places is only 30 feet wide....
 
Brian D

Brian D

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Feb 17, 2006
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Lancer 27PS MCB Camp Pendleton KF6BL
dscribner said:
Brian,

I'm curious (rhymes with clueless, sort of). How did you know it was you he was calling? Lat/Long on your GPS or something.
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I was the only sailboat exiting San Diego bay at the time. I wasn't sure who he was talking to on the first hail but the second time I looked around and saw no other sailboats. So I answered.
 
Brian D

Brian D

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Feb 17, 2006
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Lancer 27PS MCB Camp Pendleton KF6BL
For radio checks, I use the old time honored ham radio method of listening first. I will scan each channel and listen to see if anyone is talking (except 16). Then when they are finished, I will break in and ask for a quick radio check. I usually get a nice response back and that is it. Radio check complete.
 
Roger Long

Roger Long

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Nov 22, 2008
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Endeavour 32 Portland, Maine
kloudie1 said:
Chewy, here is a start.. http://www.coastalsailing.net/Cruising/Seamanship/Radio/RadioBasics.html
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Interesting. That site says that Security and Pan Pan calls are best left to the Coast Guard and you should contact them and let them make the call. That ship has obviously sailed. I have nothing against Security call and have made them myself. However, they should be necessary and provide specific information that will help another vessel anticipate and avoid you.
 
Scott B

Scott B

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Sep 20, 2006
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Hunter 33 Georgian Bay, Ontario, Canada
In our area we hear Securite calls all the time. There are many areas in the small craft channel that are only wide enough for one boat to pass.

Securite, Securite 35 ft. power boat entering Minicog Channel from the south.
 
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Drew13440

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May 6, 2004
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IF the vessel is constrained by draft and not free to maneuver it would be worthy of a securite call to let others know they are entering the channel. They make these all the time coming out of Baltimore. Really helps if I'm crossing the channel since they are gong 20 knots and will be transiting the channel in about 10 minutes total. it is something I find useful to know.
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Bill, I think what you are talking about falls into the "hazard to navigation" category and is appropriate. I interpreted the OP describing a guy in his new Bayliner saying "I am here, look at me!" That is up there with "Rubber Duck for a radio check. Where are the fish biting?" It's the sort of stuff that makes me just turn the radio off so's I can enjoy the day.
 
CaptForce

CaptForce

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Jan 6, 2009
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Morgan OI 41 Jacksonville
Three places on the East Coast US where people expect and depend upon securite calls are "the rock pile" at the ICW near Myrtle Beach; Elliott Cut when the current is swift just south of Charleston on the ICW and the Largo Canal "crash corner" into Key Largo from oceanside. People much rather know what's to expect at these places. Take care and joy, Aythya crew
 
Bob 04 H260

Bob 04 H260

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May 16, 2007
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Boatless ! 26 Ottawa, Ontario
Scott B said:
US Power Squadron VHF course. In Canada it is mandatory to have a VHF operators Certificate.
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Scott, a certificate is no longer required if you are only using the radio in Canada. If you will using it outside the country then you need the operators certificate in order to comply with the laws in the USA or Caribbean countries etc.

The same is true in the USA I believe.

Bob
 
Timo42

Timo42

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Mar 26, 2007
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Venture 22 Marina del Rey
Drew13440 said:
Bill, I think what you are talking about falls into the "hazard to navigation" category and is appropriate. I interpreted the OP describing a guy in his new Bayliner saying "I am here, look at me!" That is up there with "Rubber Duck for a radio check. Where are the fish biting?" It's the sort of stuff that makes me just turn the radio off so's I can enjoy the day.
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I can't think of a greater "hazard to navigation" than "a guy in his new Bayliner" :D
 
Scott B

Scott B

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Sep 20, 2006
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Hunter 33 Georgian Bay, Ontario, Canada
Bob 04 H260 said:
Scott, a certificate is no longer required if you are only using the radio in Canada. If you will using it outside the country then you need the operators certificate in order to comply with the laws in the USA or Caribbean countries etc.

The same is true in the USA I believe.

Bob
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Bob, you may be confusing the VHF station license which is not required to the Cetificate which IS required.

From the Cdn Power Squadron, which offers the VHF course...


The ROC(M) is a Canadian Federal government issued certificate that allows you to operate a marine VHF radio. ​

The ROC(M) is required by anyone using a marine VHF radio or other marine radios (each person on the boat who will use the radio needs their own card). There are significant fines if you are found using a VHF or marine radio without your card.​
 
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