Anyone sailed San Juans?

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Aug 23, 2006
53
- - S. Haven, Michigan
A little of it all

Terry Cox, We like a mix of all that you mentioned. We're planning ahead right now for the trip to occur late Aug early Sep. We're seriously considering 4-5 months during our retirement years.
 
Aug 23, 2006
53
- - S. Haven, Michigan
A little of it all

Terry Cox, We like a mix of all that you mentioned. We're planning ahead right now for the trip to occur late Aug early Sep. We're seriously considering 4-5 months during our retirement years.
 
Dec 25, 2000
5,902
Hunter Passage 42 Shelter Bay, WA
A few more details please...

I take it you live in Michigan and you plan on bringing your Oday 26 with you on a trailer, or is the boat already in Everett? Does your boat have a dinghy with oars? It makes a big difference whether you have a dinghy or not. After Labor Day things quiet down some and anchorages become less crowded. If you plan on sailing out of Anacortes you have several good places to go. As mentioned in earlier posts Roche Harbor and Friday Harbor on San Juan Island make good stopping places. If you have a good anchoring system and dinghy you can anchor out or pay for a slip. On the way among my favorites are Spencer Spit, Pelican Beach, James Island, Jones Island, Turn Island, etc. Most have good anchorages or mooring balls. I highly recommend you purchase and read up on a Waggoner Cruising Guide before hand. It will help you plan your cruise. http://www.waggonerguide.com/ Terry
 
Dec 25, 2000
5,902
Hunter Passage 42 Shelter Bay, WA
A few more details please...

I take it you live in Michigan and you plan on bringing your Oday 26 with you on a trailer, or is the boat already in Everett? Does your boat have a dinghy with oars? It makes a big difference whether you have a dinghy or not. After Labor Day things quiet down some and anchorages become less crowded. If you plan on sailing out of Anacortes you have several good places to go. As mentioned in earlier posts Roche Harbor and Friday Harbor on San Juan Island make good stopping places. If you have a good anchoring system and dinghy you can anchor out or pay for a slip. On the way among my favorites are Spencer Spit, Pelican Beach, James Island, Jones Island, Turn Island, etc. Most have good anchorages or mooring balls. I highly recommend you purchase and read up on a Waggoner Cruising Guide before hand. It will help you plan your cruise. http://www.waggonerguide.com/ Terry
 
Dec 8, 2007
478
Irwin 41 CC Ketch LaConner WA
One thing you will find

once you get here is that everything is pretty close togather. If you dont like one place or it's to crowded, there are other places close at hand. Most all our main bodies of water all all REAL deep so as long as you have a good chart or a Ploter you should have no problums. The Gulfs are a little tricker in the coves and some pases if you venture that far but everything is well charted, almost to well charted it get's me takein chances sometimes...;) It stays light till 9:00 pm that time of yeay so you will have plenty of daylight for cruisin around. one more thing dont leave your big sails at home as we are usually prayin for wind around here that time of year... Fly your new SBO Bergee and dont be suprized if one of us dosent raft up to you and share a cold one..:) Edit: Hay Phil!! When will thoes be availibal for purchase anyway?
 
Dec 8, 2007
478
Irwin 41 CC Ketch LaConner WA
One thing you will find

once you get here is that everything is pretty close togather. If you dont like one place or it's to crowded, there are other places close at hand. Most all our main bodies of water all all REAL deep so as long as you have a good chart or a Ploter you should have no problums. The Gulfs are a little tricker in the coves and some pases if you venture that far but everything is well charted, almost to well charted it get's me takein chances sometimes...;) It stays light till 9:00 pm that time of yeay so you will have plenty of daylight for cruisin around. one more thing dont leave your big sails at home as we are usually prayin for wind around here that time of year... Fly your new SBO Bergee and dont be suprized if one of us dosent raft up to you and share a cold one..:) Edit: Hay Phil!! When will thoes be availibal for purchase anyway?
 
Mar 4, 2004
347
Hunter 37.5 Orcas Island, WA
Skull Island

Aircooled, I live on Orcas Island in the San Juans. We are one of the world's great cruising grounds, and I'm sure you will enjoy your visit. Skull Island is a really tiny piece of real estate in Massacre Bay at the head of Orcas Island's West Sound. You can anchor off it while you dinghy over. It won't take you long to explore because it's so small, but it is very pretty. If you do anchor there, you might consider a hike in the San Juan Preservation Trust's new Turtleback Mountain Preserve. The trail head is nearby (please see link). I'm not sure of your experience level so forgive me if I'm talking down to you--it's not my intention. If you are based in South Haven, MI, the biggest adjustment you'll face here has to do with tides. We have so-called semi-diurnal tides here, two high tides and two low tides. One of them is usually a big range, and the other smaller. They can be up to 13 feet but are more typically 8 or 9 feet. You need to pay close attention to the tides when you are anchoring to make sure you have adequate scope at high tide and to keep from being on the bottom at low tide. Also we have a lot of rocks and reefs that "disappear" at high tide but are waiting just below the water to clean off the bottom of your keel. Make sure you have detailed charts and know how to read them along with the tide table. Kelp on the surface is also frequently an indicator of rocks and reefs below. The tidal range also sets up strong currents in many places. Coming over from Anacortes you may experience a 2-3 knot cross current in Rosario strait which needs to be compensated for. In some places like Cattle Pass and Speiden Channel the currents can hit 5 knots and may bring your boat's speed to zero over the bottom (or 10 knots!). It pays to plan your timing through these passes. Finally if the wind kicks up against the tidal currents, it can raise a nasty chop. You'll be surpised by whirlpools and eddies. But it's all part of the adventure. Hope you enjoy! Gary Wyngarden S/V Wanderlust h37.5
 
Mar 4, 2004
347
Hunter 37.5 Orcas Island, WA
Skull Island

Aircooled, I live on Orcas Island in the San Juans. We are one of the world's great cruising grounds, and I'm sure you will enjoy your visit. Skull Island is a really tiny piece of real estate in Massacre Bay at the head of Orcas Island's West Sound. You can anchor off it while you dinghy over. It won't take you long to explore because it's so small, but it is very pretty. If you do anchor there, you might consider a hike in the San Juan Preservation Trust's new Turtleback Mountain Preserve. The trail head is nearby (please see link). I'm not sure of your experience level so forgive me if I'm talking down to you--it's not my intention. If you are based in South Haven, MI, the biggest adjustment you'll face here has to do with tides. We have so-called semi-diurnal tides here, two high tides and two low tides. One of them is usually a big range, and the other smaller. They can be up to 13 feet but are more typically 8 or 9 feet. You need to pay close attention to the tides when you are anchoring to make sure you have adequate scope at high tide and to keep from being on the bottom at low tide. Also we have a lot of rocks and reefs that "disappear" at high tide but are waiting just below the water to clean off the bottom of your keel. Make sure you have detailed charts and know how to read them along with the tide table. Kelp on the surface is also frequently an indicator of rocks and reefs below. The tidal range also sets up strong currents in many places. Coming over from Anacortes you may experience a 2-3 knot cross current in Rosario strait which needs to be compensated for. In some places like Cattle Pass and Speiden Channel the currents can hit 5 knots and may bring your boat's speed to zero over the bottom (or 10 knots!). It pays to plan your timing through these passes. Finally if the wind kicks up against the tidal currents, it can raise a nasty chop. You'll be surpised by whirlpools and eddies. But it's all part of the adventure. Hope you enjoy! Gary Wyngarden S/V Wanderlust h37.5
 
Jun 8, 2004
550
Macgregor 26M Delta, B.C. Canada 26M not X
Now that's what I'm talkin about!

AirCooled: Ten days and prepositioning.... now we are getting somewhere. Start at Anacortes, that is for certain. I did not realize you were planning for summer, good idea. With ten days yo can easily spend 4 days on each side of the border with two left over for travel. I have already covered my experience with the San Juans so now bit about the Gulf Islands. First of all you are crossing customs there and back, they are particular about what foods and drinks you are carrying, be sure you know what you cannot take across. Most of the Gulf Islands have limited water supply, do not expect any to be readily available. Sydney or any other Vancouver Island ports can supply plenty of water. Saltspring Island is an exception, they have water, they also have Ganges Harbour for re-provisioning, a very short walk from the dinghy dock is Thrifty's Market where you can fulfill most of your needs. They have two marinas to choose from or you can anchor but marinas come with showers and laundry facilities. Saltspring marina at the harbour end has a nice pub/restaurant, and there is plenty to see and do once you arrive at the dinghy dock, stores, shops, restaurants, galleries, to name a few. Prevost Island has plenty of anchorages and Otter Bay on Pender Island has a nice pool and facilities. Poets Cove is mostly for the rich and famous but they provide free acess to their pool and showers if you are slipped there, they have a nice reastaurant too. They will give you water to drink but none to carry away. Montague on Galiano is a very nice spot with a marine park for the children and good anchorage. If you happen to cruise the channel on the west side of Saltspring, Maple bay on Vancouver Island has the cleanest facilities around. It is likely that 4 days will keep you in the Southern portion of the islands so the furthest North you may go would be Thetis Island, Telegraph Harbour has two marinas and anchorage. There is plenty further north but that is getting a bit ambitious, you may be better off maintaining your cruise in the southern portion. Since you will likely be comming from the San Juan Channel, keep your cruising within the islands, no sense in going east of them, you will end up in the Georgia Strait where the water is bigger and rougher with more commercial traffic. Your two main ports of call for provisioning are Ganges in Canada and Friday Harbour in USA. The walk to Kings Market (Friday) for groceries is a bit ambitious so be sure you have a backpack to carry your stores with. Friday Harbour is also populated with shops, galleries, stores and sightseeing. Forgot, one more stop; Princess Margaret Marine Park, Portland Island, nice stop for the children to get there ya ya's out.
 
May 5, 2006
1,140
Knutson K-35 Yawl Bellingham
Oh, if you're coming North via the San Juan Channel

at night, watch for Whale Rocks at the entrance. They're not marked and are only visible if within 1000' on a dry night. They are shown on the charts so pay attention.
 
Aug 23, 2006
53
- - S. Haven, Michigan
Thanks again, keep it coming

Everyone, thanks for the info, I'm taking good notes. Also, you'll see my home port sometimes listed as S. Haven, MI and then Everett, WA. I've sailed mostly out on L. MI, but I'm new to WA and will sail around Everett all summer, then up to San Juans at the end of the season. Terry. I'll certaily have a shore boat with me and we'll check out Turtleback Mt. Preserve. Gary. Experince level. Well, it's hard to describe. We've sailed 4 years now, starting w/ first year on a Chrysler 22 and now on an ODay 26. Since we were in MI, we only sailed 5 mo/year. My wife and I have taken USPS courses to advanced piloting and we understand the tides and charts, but now we get to experience them. Thank you for your thoughts on this topic. Charlie. Daylight only on my first trip. Got to stay on the safe side. CAPT Kermie. Thanks for the unique info on Canadian points. I won't make these on my first trip, but I'm saving the info for later trips. Thank you.
 
Nov 8, 2007
1,578
Hunter 27_75-84 Sandusky Harbor Marina, Ohio
First anchorage in the San Juans

On the southeast corner of Lopez Island is a deep rectangular bay facing slightly south of east. We had a magic first anchorage there on our first night on a charter out of Anacortes. I believe it may be called Hughes Bay, but the maps I can find on the internet are not very clear. It's a great first stop coming north from Everett, and a convenient day sail from destinations in the central and north San Juans. (We went next to Roche Harbor. I'm not saying anyone would have our luck, but we saw: - a Minke whale diving in the tidal turbulence off the mouth of the bay as we arrived. - Several seals. - Lots of different sea birds. - Sea otters. - A bald eagle catching a fish. - A pod of Orcas passing outside as we left! Might be worth a try! David Lady Lillie
 
May 5, 2006
1,140
Knutson K-35 Yawl Bellingham
Lot's of wildlife on and around Whale Rocks.

When we cruised by last Sunday there were Sea Lions, Seals, Bald Eagles fishing and various other waterfowl. There's been an Orca pod off PT since June. We might sail out and look for them this weekend.
 
Jun 3, 2004
730
Catalina 250 Wing Keel Eugene, OR
Just did it

First, buy the Waggoner Cruising Guide 2008. It is the Bible for the PNW cruiser. Sorry, but that Gunkholing book is old school. ;) We did two weeks in the San Juans this fall. -Anacortes for one night (Cap Sante Marina). Nice marina, good spot to provision. -Blind Bay on Shaw Island for two nights. Marine state park. Lovely walks. -Deer Harbor on Orcas Island for two nights. Nice Marina with pool. -Friday Harbor for two nights. Great town, rented motor scooters. -Snug Harbor for two nights. Depart here to look for whales. -Stuart Island (Reid Harbor)for two nights. Marine state park, nice hikes. -Friday Harbor for one night. Dropped daughter off to catch the ferry. -Fisherman's Bay on Lopez (Islander Resort). Nice town, marina has pool. -Anacortes for one night and departure. Anacortes is a great spot to start and end and Cap Sante has full facilities including a lift. Buy the Waggoner Guide and also the Current Atlas for Juan de Fuca Strait (tides) put out by the Canadian government. Also get the 2008 Washburne's Table which is the companion to the Current Atlas. Combined these two books give you a graphic view of the tide movement throughout the day. A must have! A chartplotter is a must as there are many rocks just below the surface and you must be attentive. We also have the Map Tech chart kit for the region. We plan to do all of our San Juan cruising while schools are in session. No crowds at all wherever we went. In the summer it is a different story. The San Juans are great. This spring we plan to cruise them again and hit the Canadian Gulf Islands.
 
Jul 1, 1998
3,062
Hunter Legend 35 Poulsbo/Semiahmoo WA
Go With The Flow

One thing that will make your life much easier is "to go with the flow". By that, I mean, go with the currents. The currents are typically really strong and, for example, if you're in a 6-knot boat going with a 3-knot current you make 9 knots! The other way around, going against the current, you make only (arrrgh! 3 knots. What will help tremendously is the Canadian "CURRENT ATLAS /JUAN DE FUCA STRAIT TO STRAIT OF GEORGIA". It will show, pictorially, hour by hour, what the current is. There is a companion booklet which is issued every year that MUST be used in conjunction with the Atlas. Link to atlas: http://miva.crownpub.bc.ca/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=P244&Category_Code=CP-01-12 The Chandlery on this site has a number of cruising guides for the area. Link: http://shop.hunterowners.com/books/category-books.htm?fno=0&group=[groupid]&cat=1305&nop=T (note: not sorted by San Juan Islands) "A Foot and Afloat" is a cheap paperback, albeit a tad old by now, but can be helpful about shoreside features. Time of year: Personally, if you don't like power boat wakes being thrown at you then avoid the end of July through Labor Day. especially August (aka Fogust). Power boaters just love to drive close by and get a good look at that sailboat. With the high fuel prices, though, there seems to be fewer of them and fewer of high-speed types although a loaded-down 18-footer going below full planing speed can cause a pretty nastyb wake. Memorial Day is usually has very light winds and otherwise nice weather.
 

cscott

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Oct 18, 2007
188
Macgregor 26S - 1993 Aumsville, OR
Charts

I don't know if you have charts of the area yet, but ther is a book by Evergreen Pacific called "San Juan Island Cruising Atlas" that has charts covering the area and a little of Vancover Island. It shows pictures and hazards of many of the bays. It cost about $37.00, and is good. Also you can get the latest chart reproductions for around $5.00, 3/4 size, and $8.00 full size from "http://www.tidesend.com/main.htm?-session=tidesend:C0A801011394f31FA8xsh2B4A6F6 ". I like te full size. They have a full set of the San Juan Islands. Hope to see you up there. My wife and I will be there for about 4 weeks starting the midle of July. Chuck
 
Nov 12, 2006
256
Catalina 36 Bainbridge Island
San Juan Islands

David from Sandusky Harbor, it looks like it was 'Aleck Bay' on Lopez Island. There isn't any bay named Hughes Bay, and Aleck Bay fits your description. Patriot: Again,Buy The Waggoner Cruising Guide 2008! Mooring bouy's require a fee to use (worth it at most parks).
 

paulj

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Mar 16, 2007
1,361
Catalina 310 Anacortes,Wa
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For your use only http://bis.apl.washington.edu/bis_home.php
 
Aug 23, 2006
53
- - S. Haven, Michigan
Thanks

The feedback is more than I hoped for. Keep it coming. Priceless info for me and anyone else who reads this thread.
 
Sep 24, 1999
1,511
Hunter H46LE Sausalito
our last trip...

...extended up into the Gulf Islands, which I enjoyed even more than the San Juans. Friday Harbor to Reid Harbour to Cadborough Bay to the Royal Victoria Yacht Club to Sidney Spit to Montague Harbour to Bedwell Harbour back to Roche Harbor. A gorgeous trip that probably sounds far more strenuous than it actually was.
 
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