Anyone out there sailing a 23' Rob Roy by Marine Concepts

Jan 21, 2020
6
Com-Pac Sun Cat Waterloo, IA
Just bought a Rob Roy 23' in Florida and pulled it home to Iowa. It is a 1987 build boat with lots of owners before me. Have two questions about the boat to start with. The first one is the boat does not seem to round up if it is over powered in a gust, is this something to do with the mast rake or something else. Second is were was the water tank mounted in this boat. All I can find is that it was 15 gallons, on idea where it was mounted. Hoping to find a owner or former owner that can give me some help with sorting this new to me boat out.
 

jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
22,771
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
I drank a Rob Roy once, never had the opportunity to sail one.

Perhaps pictures of your boat might help.

Where do you want the water tank to sit? With a clean palette you can make those decision yourself. get a couple of 5 gallon bottles and position them on the boat full of water. It will give you ideas about how the boat will be in or out of balance due to the weight of the water.
 

jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
22,771
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
Looking at the Sailboat data, it looks to be a narrow boat at 7ft beam, and 20.8 ft water line. Light weight and a bit tender as you move about her or sail her in a bit of chop (comfort scale 11). But she will right herself readily with a capsizing rating of 2.11. A lot of rigging to manage being a fractional rigged yawl.

With the canoe shaped hull, bow sprit, and two masts she looks salty.
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Will be interesting to learn what you think of her.
 
Jan 21, 2020
6
Com-Pac Sun Cat Waterloo, IA
Realley hoped to find someone how owned a Rob Roy or sailed one. There were around one hundred made to my best findings. Have sailed her a couple of times now and getting use to the way she behaves. Seems to have a good turn of speed and with 300 square feet of sail with the Genoa the light air performance is better than I expected. Still hoping to hear from a owner.
 
Feb 16, 2021
3
Marine Concepts Rob Roy 23 NH
I picked up a 86 Rob Roy 23 which I've been sailing & restoring over the past 3 years. I replaced the original flexible water tank with a square 13 gallon one from Nautos. It's located under the starboard berth just aft of the sink. My boat rounds up predictably in gusts. The mast is raked back a slight amount. One difference between our boats is mine has a jib where it sounds like you're sailing with a Genoa.
 
Jan 21, 2020
6
Com-Pac Sun Cat Waterloo, IA
It's nice to find that someone else is sailing a boat the same as yours. My boat came with no water tank but still had the sink and water pump. Ended up putting a five gallon water jug in the storage area just forward of the sink. Also added roller furler and ran all the lines to the cockpit. Looks like you could turn the main cabin into a double berth, not sure how that is done. On the rounding up, the boat is past forty five degrees before she turns up wind. Have lots of questions and would like to talk some time. Boat is setting in about three foot of snow wright now but that will melt soon and be water to float on in the next month or so.
 
Feb 16, 2021
3
Marine Concepts Rob Roy 23 NH
The double berth is enormous. My brother and I are each over 6'3" and we fit on it with room to spare. Lift up the floor board and it'll rest on 2 hardwood runners & fill the space between the settee's. Then cover it with the cushions from the back rests.

Here's a link to a video of a trip I took this summer. If you skip to the end there are pictures and footage of my boat sailing along side another Rob Roy. It should give you an idea of how much rake there is in our masts.

Regarding the rounding up...I've found the Rob Roy doesn't round up as quickly as say a Hunter 23. My Rob Roy tends to hold her course if the sails are well balanced, but if the rail gets pushed down in a gust, she'll round up unless I ease the sails or turn her down wind.

If you want to chat let me know how to reach you.
 
Jan 21, 2020
6
Com-Pac Sun Cat Waterloo, IA
Thanks for the great video, a lot better than looking at all the snow around hear. I would like to keep in contact and learn more about our Rob Roy's. You can contact me at rkschwake@gmail.com. Hoping for warm weather to melt that dam snow.
 
Mar 16, 2021
3
Marine Concepts Rob Roy 23 Stuart
I have a 1985 Rob Roy 23, Daisy. Acquired her about 1.5 years ago, but just recommissioned her a few weeks ago and have had her out twice. I am still getting her sorted out, but the first sail seemed promising under main and working jib only. I am in Stuart, FL so able to sail most of the year.
 
Jan 21, 2020
6
Com-Pac Sun Cat Waterloo, IA
Glad to hear from another Rob Roy owner. I bought my boat a year ago in March down in your area. There are very few people up here in Iowa that sail. I don't believe anyone has ever seen a Rob Roy around here. Did a lot of work last summer cleaning up the interior, adding roller furling, new winches and running all the lines back to the cockpit. Did some sailing also and learned a few things. She doesn't like to have a lot of sail up when it's blowing hard. Sailed in 20 to 25 winds with gust above 30 with just a small amount of the jib out and the mizzen, handled great and made good speed. Any thing you can pass on to me would be appreciated. Hope to hear from you again.
 
Mar 16, 2021
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Marine Concepts Rob Roy 23 Stuart
Hello! I'm just getting to know mine. She has the hank on head sails and given the difficulty in reaching the forestay from the deck, the roller furling sounds like a great idea. What system did you go with?
 
Jan 21, 2020
6
Com-Pac Sun Cat Waterloo, IA
I installed a Flexible Furler #2 by CDI myself with instructions that came with furler. My boat has what I would guess is a 140% genoa and it works great with this sail. Have had no problems rolling the sail up in winds of 20 and maybe a little more. My e-mail address is in one of the earlier post if you would rather contact me that way. Keep in contact and lets try to trade ideas.
 
Feb 16, 2021
3
Marine Concepts Rob Roy 23 NH
I too have a Flexible Furler 2 by CDI which the prior owner installed about 10 yrs ago. The jib sheets run from the adjustable block on the track, through an eye mounted on the edge of the coach roof and are secured by a cam cleat on the aft edge of the coach roof.
Another RR owner I sail with has a 140 Genoa. His jib sheet comes through the eye, around the winch and to a cam cleat mounted on the outside face of the companionway. He likes the extra purchase the winch affords in higher winds.
 
Sep 15, 2016
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Hunter 19 Quakertown PA
I've got a Rob Roy Sunseeker 23 sloop. Jib is hanked on and I'm looking at creating a self tacking rig up front.
 
Jun 15, 2021
1
Marine Concepts Rob Roy Lake Champlain
I've had a '86 Rob Roy for a few years now. I've heavily modified it and continue to do so. Great boat. Very seaworthy. Handles nicely in 25-30 Knot winds and 8ft waves on Lake Champlain.

Nice to find a small RR community here!