Any sailor preppers out there?
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The Ulysses option.... it actually no longer exists. Sadly. Look at what covid did. I know a guy that was sailing in Antarctica when it hit. He ended up having to sail non-stop from south of the Falklands to Annapolis as he couldn't land anywhere. Good thing he had a boat prepared to do that...
If one is interested in creating a retreat from apocalyptical outcomes - you need to develop a complete eco system - on a sailboat? Read "Sailing the Farm". But I don't actually know anyone doing it.
dj
If one is interested in creating a retreat from apocalyptical outcomes - you need to develop a complete eco system - on a sailboat? Read "Sailing the Farm". But I don't actually know anyone doing it.
dj
For a long time, I thought the song by Don Williams and, later, Eric Clapton was "Living on toast and wine"
I don't consider myself a prepper, cause I don't prep. To try and take off on our sailboat would be unrealistic (weather and storage and lack of supplies comes to mind). In general, I think that people who sail a lot are more self sufficient than most.
With our off grid cabin up north located in a pretty remote area, I'd probably be more "preppy" than most, though. We could survive quite nicely there if the need arose and there was a world worth living in. We've actually talked about that a bit. If something happened (even just an emp) we'd be fine up there, if we were in the area already. If we were down in our SC winter home, we'd be screwed. There are too many people here and our quality of life would be impacted in hours or a couple of days at most, and a trip up north likely impossible. Concerning fire arms, a 12 ga shotgun is all you need for hunting or home protection. It's more versatile than anything else. I never got why people seem to think they need ar's and pistols.
With our off grid cabin up north located in a pretty remote area, I'd probably be more "preppy" than most, though. We could survive quite nicely there if the need arose and there was a world worth living in. We've actually talked about that a bit. If something happened (even just an emp) we'd be fine up there, if we were in the area already. If we were down in our SC winter home, we'd be screwed. There are too many people here and our quality of life would be impacted in hours or a couple of days at most, and a trip up north likely impossible. Concerning fire arms, a 12 ga shotgun is all you need for hunting or home protection. It's more versatile than anything else. I never got why people seem to think they need ar's and pistols.
Funny this topic came up ... Sue and I just came back from a long weekend at my sister's farm in northern Vermont. It's a secluded place back in the hills and not anywhere close to a population center. We used to go there more frequently with our little kids over 30 years ago and my BIL used to say it would be their hideout if the world fell apart. It was a rustic house with no heating system other than wood stoves and the water came from a spring on the hillside. Lat time I was there was 20 years ago. They just finished re-building a modern farmhouse with a new barn to house the snowmobiles. I'm guessing the world may be falling apart!
One day I heard my wife sining along to "Bad, Bad Leroy Brown" and fell out of my chair laughing when she declared that he was "badder than the whooping cough".
WTF It is not even close and It doesn't even rhyme.Another time I learned from my wife that when Jack and Diane are sucking on chili dogs behind the tasty freeze, he likes to put ham between her cheese....
"Oh yeah, life goes on".
Nuclear War, super volcano, weaponized virus', ecological collapse, post biological super alien intelligence invasions... the sailboat is prepared and provisioned well.. at least to escape a few days, prepped with freeze dried meals, canned goods, manual water purifier, solar, and other camping/sailing gear.
Last year came in good use..staying on boat to avoid in-laws.
Last year came in good use..staying on boat to avoid in-laws.
Probably the best gun for personal HOME protection is a youth model 20 gauge pump action shotgun with #3 buckshot (20 pellets per shell). Why you ask?
Shotgun (no choke installed) - doesn't require precise aim like a handgun and less penetrating power too. All you need to penetrate is flesh. (Sorry for the image but lets be practical)
#3 buckshot (20 pellets per load) Big enough pellets to penetrate, enough pellets to spread the pattern at 10 to 20 feet.
Youth Model - smaller, shorter barrel, shorter stock, easier to swing and aim without as much interference from walls, doors etc. Not a sawed off shutgun but still fairly compact
20 gauge - somewhat cheaper ammo, smaller powder load, less recoil - be realistic how far are you going to shoot - maybe 30 feet at most. Most importantly less recoil than a 12 guage. Take your wife who doesn't shoot much, if any, out to shoot a 12 guage and if she doesn't hurt her shoulder she may very well be scared "shi&%less" after the first shot. The 20 guage is much less intimidating, (I know some women can far outshoot me, again being realistic, my wife would never shoot a 12 guage). A 410 shotgun would work too but may not have enough pellets per shot to make up for poor aim and it is not easy to find a pump 410.
Pump Action - why not semiauto? A retired Chicago Police Officer who I met at a gun store in Chicago told me they interviewed home invaders/robbers and asked what sound they feared the most. It was not a dog, not a siren, not the cock of a pistol hammer but the sound of a pump action shotgun. They knew they were probably in deep do-do if they heard that. It is a very distinctive sound.
However, it is not easy to "store" conveniently where you can get to it quickly so a pistol in a small biometric gun safe is still a good idea.
Shotgun (no choke installed) - doesn't require precise aim like a handgun and less penetrating power too. All you need to penetrate is flesh. (Sorry for the image but lets be practical)
#3 buckshot (20 pellets per load) Big enough pellets to penetrate, enough pellets to spread the pattern at 10 to 20 feet.
Youth Model - smaller, shorter barrel, shorter stock, easier to swing and aim without as much interference from walls, doors etc. Not a sawed off shutgun but still fairly compact
20 gauge - somewhat cheaper ammo, smaller powder load, less recoil - be realistic how far are you going to shoot - maybe 30 feet at most. Most importantly less recoil than a 12 guage. Take your wife who doesn't shoot much, if any, out to shoot a 12 guage and if she doesn't hurt her shoulder she may very well be scared "shi&%less" after the first shot. The 20 guage is much less intimidating, (I know some women can far outshoot me, again being realistic, my wife would never shoot a 12 guage). A 410 shotgun would work too but may not have enough pellets per shot to make up for poor aim and it is not easy to find a pump 410.
Pump Action - why not semiauto? A retired Chicago Police Officer who I met at a gun store in Chicago told me they interviewed home invaders/robbers and asked what sound they feared the most. It was not a dog, not a siren, not the cock of a pistol hammer but the sound of a pump action shotgun. They knew they were probably in deep do-do if they heard that. It is a very distinctive sound.
However, it is not easy to "store" conveniently where you can get to it quickly so a pistol in a small biometric gun safe is still a good idea.
That was part of the conversation I had with him, "But Old Man, (I often called him Old Man, ever since he'd turned 40. He was 82 by this time) you can't even hold the gun steady enough to hit anything."
He said, "You're right, and don't you think a shaky old man is even more scary with a gun, to an intruder? It could go off any second."
My father talked about mounting just the pump action from a shotgun over his bunk so that if he heard an intruder slid open the hatch, he could just reach up and give that slide a pump. No worries about sailing into a strange port with a firearm, just that one useless part. He explained that he thought that was the one sound no pirate wanted to hear. Of course, once it's been pumped, you want an automatic to actually repel them with. Shotgun or blunderbuss are the best tools for highseas defense. My preference is for the blunderbuss, modified to use shells from a magazine of at least five rounds.
Of course. I have a basement filled with homemade wine.Unless there’s a banking system none of us will fare very well for long. @Will Gilmore has the best odds. Hey Will, can I come live with you?
Oops! I shouldn't have advertised that.
-Will
I take that as an invitation - Freudian or not.... That's how I'm taking it...Of course. I have a basement filled with homemade wine.
Oops! I shouldn't have advertised that.
-Will
I feel a good apocalypse coming on within the next month or so.... Shall we make a date?
dj
I can stab them from the next room and they'll never hear me coming with the bayonet mounted on this Potsdam.
But I sure do agree about the unique sound of racking a Remington 870 being the most attention-getting thing in the world.
A red laser dot on the chest would be pretty inhibiting too.
But I sure do agree about the unique sound of racking a Remington 870 being the most attention-getting thing in the world.
A red laser dot on the chest would be pretty inhibiting too.
Might work great for home protection, but if I'm going to arm myself for my sailboat, I'd really prefer a good supply of RPG's...
dj
In real life that’s a very effective way to get your boat confiscated and yourself locked up for a very long time. It would make a great scene in a movie though. Where’s the popcorn emoji?
Hahahahahahaha - you clearly missed the tongue in cheek...
dj
I didn’t miss it. I saw that wry smile from all the way over here at my couch.
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- Oct 22, 2014
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They have aerial flares in shotgun shells.
One of these in Stainless Steel - The Mossberg Mariner is a 500 series pump,
Legal length to take into Canada as a Bear deterrent.
7 rounds, alter between flares, buckshot, bird shot, and slugs would give you a series of deterrence.
Could also serve as a line launcher
One of these in Stainless Steel - The Mossberg Mariner is a 500 series pump,
Legal length to take into Canada as a Bear deterrent.
7 rounds, alter between flares, buckshot, bird shot, and slugs would give you a series of deterrence.
Could also serve as a line launcher