Another question for Peggy

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Ernie Rodriguez

Ran across a product called "INCINOLET". Ever hear of it? No holding tank, no water required. All waste is incinerated by an electric heater at 120 volts, 1800 watts. Company that makes it claims to have been making it for over thirty years. Prbably not practical for pleasure cruisers like ours, but it is in the right direction. Any comments?? Anyone? Ernie
 
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Peggie Hall/Head Mistress

In the right direction?? I don't think so

At least not when it comes to boats. The power demands are enormous...they have to be to generate high enough temperatures to reduce wet soggy material to ash, which means they can only run on 115v AC, although there are propane models. The "burn" last for about an hour and a half...during which time you can't use the head (and for some time afterward, till it cools off). They don't burn after every flush, so you're still storing waste aboard...and despite mfr's claims to the contrary, the catalytic converter in the exhaust does NOT completely eliminate odor, which won't thrill your downwind neighbors a bit! And that 3" diameter tall smoke stack doesn't do much for your boat, either. They're *ok* for weekend cottage use in remote areas, but if you're hell bent on an alternative to a marine toilet and treatment device (which is what we should all be using instead of holding tanks), I think composting toilets have more of a future for use aboard boats.
 
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Ernie Rodriguez

Thanks Peggie....

So much for the incinerator idea. But what do you mean by composting? Ernie
 
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Peggie Hall/Head Mistress

Composting toilets

Are an interesting concept that MAY have a future aboard, but not yet. Although there are some smaller ones on the market, the only ones that work are too big to fit in most heads, and nobody's figured out a way to make 'em smaller yet, because the composting drum has to be big enough to give the material room to "fluff" and aerate when it's rotated--which, btw, has to be done every 2-3 days...which is ok for liveaboards, but can be a problem for "weekend warriors" who may even skip a couple of weekends in a row. But even if those problems can be solved, 90% of what goes into any toilet is liquid...and since wet soggy organic material does compost, it rots and stinks, excess liquids have to be drained off and there are usually more of 'em than the evaporator can handle. They can't legally drain overboard, so that means at least a small holding tank--which puts you right back where you were when you started looking for an alternative to a head & holding tank. And there are other issues too....even human solids are mostly water, so it's necessary to add a cup of dry organic material--peat moss is the material of choice 'cuz it breaks down quickly--to each "flush"...that means carrying a supply, and finding storage room for it. The evaporater needs power to run the fan and warming plate (the non-electrical units are totally unsatisfactory), though not a lot, and it can use 12v instead of 115 AC, but anything that continuously draws power creates an issue on sailboats. And where to run the 3" vent stack can be a problem too. Those are the minuses...the pluses are, when installed, operated and maintained according to directions, there's no odor...the finished compost is sanitary and dry--almost identical, except it's human instead of animal--to the bagged dry manure found at garden supply stores, and it's usually months before the drawer needs to be emptied because composting reduces material to about 10% of its original volume. Sun-Mar makes the best ones...for complete specs and descriptions of how composters work, check out their website at: http://www.sun-mar.com
 
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