Anodes, test cell, fresh water & hull potential.

JamesG161

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Feb 14, 2014
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Hunter 430 Waveland, MS
I’m unclear what you are measuring. The hull is fiberglass so the hull potential should be zero.
What if the hull is Steel, Aluminum or wood?

Hull Potential is the base line potential , of your boat, without any galvanic protection.

That base line is dependent on the water's temperature, salinity and velocity of the surrounding water.

Jim....
 
Jul 23, 2009
879
Beneteau 31 Oceanis Grand Lake, Oklahoma
Today I remeasured the hull potential, it was -370mv. Then I added a shaft anode and it measured -505mv. The shaft anode has about 3 times the surface area of the prop anode. I feel better about this level of protection.
 
Jan 11, 2014
12,744
Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
Today I remeasured the hull potential, it was -370mv. Then I added a shaft anode and it measured -505mv. The shaft anode has about 3 times the surface area of the prop anode. I feel better about this level of protection.
Bob Olsen recommends hanging the reference electrode within 1 foot of the prop or shaft in freshwater. Were you able to get that close? If so how?
 
Jul 23, 2009
879
Beneteau 31 Oceanis Grand Lake, Oklahoma
Bob Olsen recommends hanging the reference electrode within 1 foot of the prop or shaft in freshwater. Were you able to get that close? If so how?
I was not. I've just been hanging the test cell over the side near the prop and about the same depth as the prop. I've been using the same placement every time I test.
 
Jan 11, 2014
12,744
Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
I was not. I've just been hanging the test cell over the side near the prop and about the same depth as the prop. I've been using the same placement every time I test.
That would account for the slightly higher voltage reading than Olsen recommends, -.505 vs -550 to -.1100.
 
Jul 23, 2009
879
Beneteau 31 Oceanis Grand Lake, Oklahoma
Best thing to do to develop your Base Line:plus:

Jim...
I'm going to have to develop a baseline for my boat as you suggested.

I cleaned the anodes and prop a week ago with some scotchbrite. Today I tested the hull potential and got a surprise, 933mv. That's a lot higher than I've ever seen it. I don't think I've check it since I installed the new prop. The old prop was red/pink in color after i cleaned it up, I suspect galvanic corrosion.
 
Jan 11, 2014
12,744
Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
I'm going to have to develop a baseline for my boat as you suggested.

I cleaned the anodes and prop a week ago with some scotchbrite. Today I tested the hull potential and got a surprise, 933mv. That's a lot higher than I've ever seen it. I don't think I've check it since I installed the new prop. The old prop was red/pink in color after i cleaned it up, I suspect galvanic corrosion.
Is the 933mv or -933mv? If is really is 933 mv you have a big issue.
 

JamesG161

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Feb 14, 2014
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Hunter 430 Waveland, MS
Today I tested the hull potential and got a surprise, 933mv. That's a lot higher than I've ever seen it.
You cleaned the galvanic protection. I assume you are in fresh water still.

Let the galvanic chemistry come to "Steady State Chemistry".

Depending on water temperatures that may take a week or so.

If you can measure it often, plot Hull Potential versus Time.

Jim...
 
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I new somebody would catch that. It was -0.933 volt.
Only because I just did the same test on my boat. Off the top of my head I had -.450 on the engine block and -.740 on a through hull in the bonding system. All in freshwater.
 
Jul 23, 2009
879
Beneteau 31 Oceanis Grand Lake, Oklahoma
Only because I just did the same test on my boat. Off the top of my head I had -.450 on the engine block and -.740 on a through hull in the bonding system. All in freshwater.
Lately I've only been checking it to the steering pedestal. With and without the shore power connected.

I wonder why you have such a variance in voltage, that doesn't sound right to me. The bonding system should be a low resistance path and thus have minimal voltage drop along the entire path.

I am in fresh water too.
 
Jan 11, 2014
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Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
I wasn't too worried about the -451 mv because the anode was several feet from the prop. I did think it was odd that the engine was higher than the through hull, my only explanation is the bolts have a coat of paint on them.
 

JamesG161

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Feb 14, 2014
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Hunter 430 Waveland, MS
Please Note Fresh Water galvanic corrosion is a very slow Chemical reaction.

Sacrificial Anodes Surfaces, especially Aluminum, change with Time. Thus they deplete in Mass.

I cleaned the anodes and prop a week ago with some scotchbrite.
Let the newly polished surfaces chemically stabilize.;)

What is the Material of your Propeller?

Jim...
 
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Please Note Fresh Water galvanic corrosion is a very slow Chemical reaction.

Sacrificial Anodes Surfaces, especially Aluminum, change with Time. Thus they deplete in Mass.



Let the newly polished surfaces chemically stabilize.;)

What is the Material of your Propeller?

Jim...
I believe the prop is bronze. It's a Campbell Sailor.