Okay, I was cleaning out the boat, and straightening everything up so it could dry out a bit. It had sat on a mooring that someone loaned me for a few days because of a misadventure. It also sat out in a pretty powerful storm, and I'm glad to say it weathered it well! Also, working on the boat helps me get away from all the things that are going on right now in the world... I started looking at the rigging, and wondered what a lot of the things were for. I know how everything is supposed to work, but am not certain how they all work together. So let me point out what I have, and maybe someone can help me with what I'm supposed to run through them. I've got three cleats on the mast, two on each side, and then one up front. The ones on the sides I belive are for the Halyards, but whats the one up front for? The boom as a cleat on it as well, what's this for? I found the boomvang as well, but what does this mount to? I have on each side of the boat, running fore to aft, a swiveling block, a bad eye, and then a adustable swiveling block on a track. I'm assuming that these three fittings on each side are some how used to run the jib sheets through, but exactly how? Are the pad eyes for the boomvang maybe? Now, for the things I have any idea about. There are three holes in the chainplate at the front of the boat, one for the forestay, one for the shackle holding the jib, but what's the third for? The masthead has a steel loop on the front of it that seems to be a pad eye as well, what the heck is this for? My jib's have a clamcleat and a thin (1/8th inch dia. at the most)rope attached along the foot, on the clew if I remember correctly. This one has me baffled! I have an excellent idea as to how everything works on a boat, and what each item does for the most part, but when it comes to the specifics of MY boat, I've got a lot of questions! Thanks for all the help everyone, Josh
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Justin - O'day Owners' Web
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Josh - The cleats on the mast are probably as you describe - halyards. I'd guess that the forward cleat is for a spinnaker. The boom cleat is probably for a jiffy reefing line. Do you have a reef system? If the lines are lead back this cleat is probably obsolete. The vang should go to either the mast step or to a loop on the mast down low. Any such thing? I'd guess the pad eyes on the sides of the boat are to let you use the boom vang as a preventer. The lines on the cleat are to allow you to tension the sail as it ages. You tug the line into the cleat until the sail doesn't flutter at the foot. Hard to tell without being at the boat but those are my guesses. YMMV, Justin - O'day Owners' Web
Josh - The cleats on the mast are probably as you describe - halyards. I'd guess that the forward cleat is for a spinnaker. The boom cleat is probably for a jiffy reefing line. Do you have a reef system? If the lines are lead back this cleat is probably obsolete. The vang should go to either the mast step or to a loop on the mast down low. Any such thing? I'd guess the pad eyes on the sides of the boat are to let you use the boom vang as a preventer. The lines on the cleat are to allow you to tension the sail as it ages. You tug the line into the cleat until the sail doesn't flutter at the foot. Hard to tell without being at the boat but those are my guesses. YMMV, Justin - O'day Owners' Web
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wow!!!
with all your questions i wonder why you bought the boat first. there are great sailing schools from steve colgate on captiva island fla as well as his video that is very thorough or a series by robbie doyle that are also helpful.also go to specs section here and it will show you where everythiung is on your boat
with all your questions i wonder why you bought the boat first. there are great sailing schools from steve colgate on captiva island fla as well as his video that is very thorough or a series by robbie doyle that are also helpful.also go to specs section here and it will show you where everythiung is on your boat
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Josh
Re: Wow!
Well, obviously, I bought the boat to learn on! I did a good deal of research on the O'days before hand, and they seem to be a rather forgiving boat. The previous owner had someone take me out and show me how everything works, and it seemed simple enough. The problem is though that there is a lot of extra hardware he didn't use. The more I look at the 22, the more I feel that perhaps he didn't know exactly how everything worked himself.. I'm not worried, I have a family member that's into sailing. Part of the Great Lakes Schooner Project. There's also someone I met at the boat launch that said he'd take me out and help me learn on his boat among other things. The big problem I'm running into is knowing exactly what everything does. I have a rough idea how everything on any sailboat works, the question is how do those same things work on my boat. I plan on getting a few sailing videos soon, but still, those videos won't relate specifically to an Oday. I'm just trying to make sure that everything is right to begin with, so I don't start out on the wrong foot. I looked through the specs pages a few times before, and did again thinking I missed something because of your suggestion. I couldn't find anything that related to equipment specifics, so I don't suppose you could put the exact link down? I think I'm missing it... Thanks, Josh
Well, obviously, I bought the boat to learn on! I did a good deal of research on the O'days before hand, and they seem to be a rather forgiving boat. The previous owner had someone take me out and show me how everything works, and it seemed simple enough. The problem is though that there is a lot of extra hardware he didn't use. The more I look at the 22, the more I feel that perhaps he didn't know exactly how everything worked himself.. I'm not worried, I have a family member that's into sailing. Part of the Great Lakes Schooner Project. There's also someone I met at the boat launch that said he'd take me out and help me learn on his boat among other things. The big problem I'm running into is knowing exactly what everything does. I have a rough idea how everything on any sailboat works, the question is how do those same things work on my boat. I plan on getting a few sailing videos soon, but still, those videos won't relate specifically to an Oday. I'm just trying to make sure that everything is right to begin with, so I don't start out on the wrong foot. I looked through the specs pages a few times before, and did again thinking I missed something because of your suggestion. I couldn't find anything that related to equipment specifics, so I don't suppose you could put the exact link down? I think I'm missing it... Thanks, Josh
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Mike
Flat bilges
If the 22 is like the 23, the flat area you describe is the bilge. Remember, the bilge is the area in between the interior of the hull itself and the floors and walls of the cabin. On the 23, the bilge hatch is in the center of the cabin floor, above the deepest part of the hull. Since the O'Day trailer sailer line of boats (including the 22 and 23) are all flat bottomed, this makes for a shallow bilge. Water can come into the bilge from just about anywhere, including through hulls, leaky windows and deck joints. As for the location of the bilge pump, mine is located under the portside seat in the cockpit on what looks like a pad made especially for the unit. Unlike on some boats where the handle for the pump is accessable without opening the seat, on my boat you actually must open the seat locker and hold it open to use the pump. A flexible hose runs from the pump to the lowest part of the bilge. Another length of hose is attatched to the "other end" of the pump; this end must be lead overboard (or into the cockpit drain) while using the pump. This arrangement is less than ideal for emergency situations, but works fine at the dock or for occasional use.
If the 22 is like the 23, the flat area you describe is the bilge. Remember, the bilge is the area in between the interior of the hull itself and the floors and walls of the cabin. On the 23, the bilge hatch is in the center of the cabin floor, above the deepest part of the hull. Since the O'Day trailer sailer line of boats (including the 22 and 23) are all flat bottomed, this makes for a shallow bilge. Water can come into the bilge from just about anywhere, including through hulls, leaky windows and deck joints. As for the location of the bilge pump, mine is located under the portside seat in the cockpit on what looks like a pad made especially for the unit. Unlike on some boats where the handle for the pump is accessable without opening the seat, on my boat you actually must open the seat locker and hold it open to use the pump. A flexible hose runs from the pump to the lowest part of the bilge. Another length of hose is attatched to the "other end" of the pump; this end must be lead overboard (or into the cockpit drain) while using the pump. This arrangement is less than ideal for emergency situations, but works fine at the dock or for occasional use.
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Re: Flat Bilges
Hey Mike, Hmm, from reading the specifications on diffrent sites, the hand pump wasn't an option on the 22. The storage area on the port side on my boat contains the portable gas tank for the outboard. The large one on the right side is where the battery sits, and has some pooled water in it. I guess what was throwing me is that everything seems to drain somewhere else, and not into the bilge. But apart from that very small amount of water, it seems that it's just about water tight. Thanks again Mike, Josh
Hey Mike, Hmm, from reading the specifications on diffrent sites, the hand pump wasn't an option on the 22. The storage area on the port side on my boat contains the portable gas tank for the outboard. The large one on the right side is where the battery sits, and has some pooled water in it. I guess what was throwing me is that everything seems to drain somewhere else, and not into the bilge. But apart from that very small amount of water, it seems that it's just about water tight. Thanks again Mike, Josh
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Chris Bagin
Training, for safety...
Josh, Sounds like you've got a pretty good setup. I would however, suggest taking some professional classes. They train newbies everyday and are familiar with bringing people up to a proficient level. This would probably help to reinforce the things you "roughly" understand. Do it for you own safety AND for the safety of those in vessels around you! A controled learning situation is a lot better than learning "the hard way". Chris
Josh, Sounds like you've got a pretty good setup. I would however, suggest taking some professional classes. They train newbies everyday and are familiar with bringing people up to a proficient level. This would probably help to reinforce the things you "roughly" understand. Do it for you own safety AND for the safety of those in vessels around you! A controled learning situation is a lot better than learning "the hard way". Chris
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Rich, Oyster
the cleat on the boom
1) The small cleat on the boom is for the "outhaul". This is the small line attached to mainsail, which runs back, through the small hole in the alumininum casting on the end of the boom, and back to the cleat. By pulling the outhaul, you can flatten the bottom of your main. Why is the cleat so far forward? I think so that you may then release the outhaul while standing at the base of the mast, when you are putting away the main. You can reach it from there! 2) About the pad eyes and swivel blocks: The swivel blocks on the track may be used for jib or genoa sheets. The sheet is lead back from the genoa, OUTSIDE your stays, through the swivel block, around your winch, and secured to the cleat. As for the fixed, standing, blocks. These are sufficient for your standard working (100%) jib. For the standard jib, you won't need the winch. Again, the jib sheets go outside your stays. The padeyes... I do not know what they are for in your case. Unless you do not yet have your mast up! Then you may be referring to the ones for your side stays. 3) As Justin said, the cleats on either side of the mast are for your halyards. My "third cleat" is on the rear of the mast, not the front... and on the rear, it is for the "downhaul" as someone else mentioned... to pull down on the main and boom, to adjust the sail for different conditions. 4) The vang goes to the stainless "key hole" bracket on the underside of the boom. 5) As for the small line at the base of the jib, and the "loop" at the top of the mast... the former I could only guess, and the latter... I always wondered about that myself! Rich.
1) The small cleat on the boom is for the "outhaul". This is the small line attached to mainsail, which runs back, through the small hole in the alumininum casting on the end of the boom, and back to the cleat. By pulling the outhaul, you can flatten the bottom of your main. Why is the cleat so far forward? I think so that you may then release the outhaul while standing at the base of the mast, when you are putting away the main. You can reach it from there! 2) About the pad eyes and swivel blocks: The swivel blocks on the track may be used for jib or genoa sheets. The sheet is lead back from the genoa, OUTSIDE your stays, through the swivel block, around your winch, and secured to the cleat. As for the fixed, standing, blocks. These are sufficient for your standard working (100%) jib. For the standard jib, you won't need the winch. Again, the jib sheets go outside your stays. The padeyes... I do not know what they are for in your case. Unless you do not yet have your mast up! Then you may be referring to the ones for your side stays. 3) As Justin said, the cleats on either side of the mast are for your halyards. My "third cleat" is on the rear of the mast, not the front... and on the rear, it is for the "downhaul" as someone else mentioned... to pull down on the main and boom, to adjust the sail for different conditions. 4) The vang goes to the stainless "key hole" bracket on the underside of the boom. 5) As for the small line at the base of the jib, and the "loop" at the top of the mast... the former I could only guess, and the latter... I always wondered about that myself! Rich.
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