Anchor chain snubber..... home made

Mar 26, 2011
3,837
Corsair F-24 MK I Deale, MD
How do you create shock-loading for field testing your various combinations to come up with an optimal, or minimal, length of a viable snubber? ...
The testing (some in Practical Sailor, some in a book-in-negotiation) was on the water with a load cell. All kinds of weather, shallow water, long fetch. Best way. I broke a 2000-pound load cell in light air when a wake hit with no snubber. I was the only person on the boat that noticed; the impact honestly didn't feel that hard, since it was against the mass of the boat. But it snapped a 1/4-inch shackle.

How do you choose the best length? Like many things, it is compromise and experience. We surveyed many cruisers and learned that nearly all failures were in short snubbers. We notice that past about 30-40 feet (anchor to attachment) returns diminished and the chance of snagging something on the bottom went up. Same with diameter; too big does not stretch, too small will fatigue.

Another interesting exercise has been backing against anchors using momentum and stretch (bump setting). Obviously, you can get some real forces that way, on the order of a real storm. Occupationally useful for boats with weak engines or non-functioning engines. The only way I can really bury my big Manson in fine sand. Not yet published.
 

Gunni

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Mar 16, 2010
5,937
Beneteau 411 Oceanis Annapolis
Dragging is the big problem. A long snubber can reduce the loads by 1/2 or more.
And an oversized spade-style anchor doesn't care. It isn't just weight, it is the fluke surface area buried into the bottom.
 

NYSail

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Jan 6, 2006
3,155
Beneteau 423 Mt. Sinai, NY
Wow.... glad I asked. I have no experience with all chain. Last boat a P36-2 I had 50 feet and always ran it out to the nylon rode so never had to worry. Typically I anchor in 15+ feet of water. Rather stay deep as it seems more experience people are in deep water and less dragging (but not always the case....). Anyway I just boat 100 feet 3/8 chain to go with my new Rocna 25 (55lbs) as I intend to anchor more frequently and meant to buy snubber but between cleaning desk of work and readying boat for 2+ weeks away this slipped past me. Chain was a last minute thing but would have regretted it if anchored out in block island when a storm kicks up.... they can be nasty.
Anyway hope hanks for all the wisdom. Never knew all the little things that could go wrong. Did hear about chain slipping off and heard people tied a stopper to keep it together. I found a basic chain hook at Wm today and will rig it up with 1/2 lines that I have.... figure I will tied the hook to chain to prevent it falling off.

So another question thinwater.... when setting anchor do you put snubber on before backing down on anchor? I assumed not... but what do I know.

Again thanks to all for the input.... once again this site is great!
 
Jul 27, 2011
5,144
Bavaria 38E Alamitos Bay
In fact, to avoid this problem, I attach my snubber to the mid-ships cleats. With chafe-proof routing, it works a charm. I very seldom anchor in more than 7 feet (or less), and mostly 5-6.
Short of having a tropical storm or hurricane in the area, it's hard to imagine such significant shock-loads in 7 (or less) feet of water inside of a bay requiring 25-35 ft of nylon stretching capability of a snubber to guard against.:doh: Could we even see wind chop height greater than 3 ft?
 
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Mar 26, 2011
3,837
Corsair F-24 MK I Deale, MD
Short of having a tropical storm or hurricane in the area, it's hard to imagine such significant shock-loads in 7 (or less) feet of water inside of a bay requiring 25-35 ft of nylon stretching capability of a snubber to guard against.:doh: Could we even see wind chop height greater than 3 ft?
I mentioned breaking a shackle with just a wake. Yes, there are places that get that ugly. As the waves move into shallow water they become quite steep. I recorded 1050 pounds in just 30 knots with no snubber, 325 pounds with a 30-foot snubber.

Just look at the ABYC tables. That is just about what the load is in shallow water with no snubber. Very close. Those numbers were not imagined, they were collected and formalized by smart guys that took measurements.

Yes, these are not good places to anchor.

As for the statement that an oversize Spade doesn't care, obviously we could use that as a response to anything. A brick will fly if you throw it hard enough. We sail because we like to understand the forces of nature and work with them.
 
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MitchM

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Jan 20, 2005
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Nauticat 321 pilothouse 32 Erie PA
old mountain climber method: carry 4' hi strength line line to prussik onto chain . carry locking carabiner to attach into prussik's loop. lead 25' dock line from 1 bow cleat , run through carabiner , attach to other bow cleat. cheap and adjustable...