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“Alden Fiberglass Boats” List

CaravelaofExe

Alden Forum Moderator
Jan 24, 2006
221
Alden Caravelle 42 / Northern European waters
"ALDEN FIBERGLASS BOATS" LIST - YACHTS BUILT TO THE EARLY DESIGN FAMILY

**** BEST READ USING A COMPUTER SCREEN OR LARGE TABLET ****

Latest updates:

  • 1 Sept. 2017: Intelligence for 949S updated.
  • 1 March 2017: Red highlighting of vessels for sale removed to comply with the rules of this new platform.
  • 17 February 2017: major alteration to Caravelle list for 992H & Serenity/ Pearl
A register in a simple format of this family of yachts originally marketed as: "Alden Fiberglass Boats" - the first generation.
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  • Thanks for all help so far. Special thanks to: the late Niels C. Helleberg & "rjoconnell", and Scott Kraft, Bill Merrick, & "southport".
Fair winds,

CARAVELA OF EXE :)


ALDEN CHALLENGER
  • Keel Centreboard 38'6" loa Yawl/Sloop; 27'0" lwl, 11' beam, 4'0" draft, 15,000 lbs displ.
  • Design Date = 1958
Alden#/Year Built/Original Rig/Moulder[#]/Finisher[#]/Orig Name('s)/PRESENT NAME/Last known home port (default USA)

- * after last name = not known if this is present name.
- Boats in bold type = intelligence received during the life of this thread.
- Links in GREEN = vessel available for charter.

949A/1961/Yawl/Halmatic[#?]/Molich[#?]/Windsong/Serena/Evanston,IL('02)
949B/1960/Yawl/Halmatic[#?]/Field[#?]/Penobscot/Dog Watch*/(orig.Boston,MA)
949C/1960/Yawl/Halmatic[#?]/Molich[#?]/Ara/SPRING TIDES/Guilford,CT
949D/1960/Yawl/Halmatic[#?]/Molich[#?]/Aylette/Marcie III*/(orig.Glendale,OH)
949E/1960/Yawl/Halmatic[#?]/Molich[#?]/Tyo*/(orig.Lancing,MI)
949F/1960/Yawl&Sloop/Halmatic[#?]/Molich[#?]/Highlight/Sinsonte/Arianna/Innisfree/DAPHNE/Tiverton,RI
949G/1961/Yawl/Halmatic[#?]/Molich[#?]/Adventure/Bailiwick/COMPASS ROSE/Stonington,CT
949H/1960?61?/Yawl/Halmatic[#?]/Molich[#?]/Christiana/Grey Poupon/Black Pearl/CADENZA/?
949J/1961/Yawl/Halmatic[#1044]/Morse[#?]/Abri/Sheldrake/Argo/ARIA/Rockland,ME
949K/1961/Yawl/Halmatic[#?]/Molich[#?]/CARILLON/Gilford,NH
949L/1961/Yawl/Halmatic[#?]/Molich[#?]/KITTYWAKE/Fork Union,VA
949M/1961/Yawl/Halmatic[#?]/Derecktor[#?]Carina III/Keewaydin/ALLIANCE/Marion,MA
949N/1960/Yawl/Halmatic[#?]/Derecktor[#?]/Tarna/MUSKRAT/Smiths of Southport,ME
949O/1961/Yawl/Halmatic[#?]/Saybrook[#?]/Windoon II/Magic/Petrel/FLEANA/Bangor&Bucks Harbor,ME
949P/1960/Yawl/Halmatic[#?]/Palmer Johnson[#?]/VICTORY/Harbor Springs,MI
949Q/1960/Yawl/Halmatic[#?]/LeComte[#?]/Challenger/Fridolf/IOLAIRE/MI
949R/1960/Yawl/Halmatic[#?]/LeComte[#?]/ECHO/Cabot Cove,Pulpit Hr,N.Haven Isl,ME
949S/1960/Yawl/Halmatic[#?]/LeComte[#?]/White Wing/Dealer's Choice/White Wing*/ last known Lancaster,SC,1999
949T/1960/Yawl/Halmatic[#?]/LeComte[#?]/Tern/Roblyn/Cidaris/MORNING GLORY/Sth Harpswell,ME
949U/1960-61/Yawl/Halmatic[#1049]/LeComte[#33]/Prion/Mohawk/PRION/Cornwall,UK
949V/1960/Yawl now Sloop/Halmatic[#1048]/LeComte[#32]/Sara/Snark/]MARGUERITE/Falmouth Foreside,ME (2014: Galveston,TX?)
949W/1961/Yawl/Halmatic[#?]/LeComte[#?]/Magic Lantern/Poopsie III/JASMINE/Milwaukee,WI
949X/1961/Yawl/Halmatic[#?]/Molich[#?]/Gwen III/Dawn III/INTEGRITY/Sandusky,OH
949Y/1961/Yawl/Halmatic[#?]/Molich[#?]/Indecision/Gander Too/CHRISTMAS/Rockport,ME
949Z/1961/rig?/Halmatic[#?]/Molich[#?]/White [or] Fine Feather/Startoo/Blackbird/ALARM/NJ
949AA/1961/Yawl/Halmatic[#?]/Palmer Johnson[#?]/Peleia/Barbara(Tristan Jones!)/Reverie*/THEIRIS?/orig.Naperville,IL)
949BB/1960/Yawl/Halmatic[#?]/LeComte[#35]/Snow Goose/Hosanna II/STORMBIRD/Cotuit,MA
949CC/1962/Yawl/Halmatic[#?]/LeComte[#?]/Nimbus/Unicorn/God Speed/ODE TO JOY/New Paltz,NY/Foundered Barnegat Inlet,NJ,2011
949DD/1961/Yawl/Halmatic[#?]/Field[#?]/Scylla/MERIDIAN OF GREENWICH/Hamble,UK
949EE/1961?62?/Yawl/Halmatic[#?]/LeComte[#29?]/Mirily/Willing Slave/Sunsong/Gypsea/ESSAY/P.Charlotte,FL
949FF/1961/Yawl/Halmatic[#?]/LeComte[#?]/LORELEI/(New Orleans,LA)/Lost in Hurricane Camille, 1969
949GG/1963/Yawl/Halmatic[1098]/Field[#?]/Mimiverre*/(orig. Hamble,England)
949HH/1962/Yawl/Halmatic[#?]/Molich[#?]/Pukka Gen/Eroica/CINDER/Indiantown,FL
949JJ/1962/Yawl/Halmatic[#?]/Molich[#?]/Kelpie/BLACK STAR/Portland,CT
949KK/1962/Yawl/Halmatic[#?]/Field[#?]/GISELLE OF IKEN/Ardrossan,Scotland
949LL/1962/Yawl/Halmatic[#1113]/Palmer Johnson[#?]/Kuwi/WHISPER/Quissett,MA
949MM/1962/Yawl/Halmatic[#?]/Molich[#?]/Twilight/Insurgent/Greystoke/Palaemon*/(orig.Providence, RI)
949NN/196?/Yawl/Halmatic[#?]/Krentz[#?]/Lang Syne/Merriman/FREYJA/NY
949OO/1963?-71/Sloop/Halmatic[#1148]/Wade[#?]/?/Mock Turtle/ISOLETTA/(Argentina? or Scotland?)
949PP/1963/Yawl/Halmatic[#?]/Molich[#?]/Tupsi Da/Cu Mara*/(orig. New Britain,CT)
949QQ/1963/Yawl/Halmatic[#?]/Molich[#?]/Onrust II/Highland Mist/Troubadour/AQUILA/Cambridge,MD
949RR/1963/Yawl/Halmatic[#?]/Molich[#?]/SALUDOS/Austin,TX
949SS/1963/Ketch/Halmatic[#?]/MacLachlan[#?]/Steinvora*/(orig. Kingston, Ont., Canada; believed now PRION)
949TT/1963/Yawl/Halmatic[#?]/Molich[#?]/Snowflake*/(orig. Belvedere,CA)
949UU/1964/Yawl/Halmatic[#?]/Molich[#?]/Doldrums/BLACK MALLARD/Cape Porpoise,ME
949VV/1964-71?/Yawl/Halmatic[#1168]/Duncan[#?]/LYRA/Steenbergen,Netherlands
949WW/1964/Yawl/Halmatic[#?]/Molich[#?]/Epitome/Aurora/SVEDEE/NY,NY
949XX/1964/Yawl/Halmatic[#1192?]/Molich[#?](Low House)/Warlock/TARNA/New Meadows River,ME
949YY/196?/Yawl/Halmatic[#?]/Molich[#?]/Blue Magic* /(orig. Bay Head,NJ)
949ZZ/196?/Sloop-Cutter/Halmatic[#?]/Molich[#?]/Adventure/Starlite II/Black Mallard/CARITAS/Red Wing,MN
949AAA/1964/Yawl/Halmatic[#?]/Molich[#?]/TIA MARIA/Cocoa Beach,FL
949BBB/1964/Yawl+Cutter/Halmatic[#?]/Field+Island[#?]/OCEAN PELICAN/NW England (1st owner Ocean Youth Club, Plymouth, England)
949CCC/1965/Yawl/Halmatic[#?]/Molich[#?]/Serenata*/San Francisco,CA
949DDD/1966/Yawl/Halmatic[#1203]/Souter[#?]/Petard*/Kiel,Germany[R. Engineers YC]('80)

Total Built = 54?

MOULDERS INDEX (#)

Halmatic Ltd., Portsmouth, Hampshire, England (all)

[Note May 24, 2007: Halmatic location now shown as Portsmouth, Hampshire, England from previous Havant, Hampshire, England. Believe company moved from Portsmouth to Havant in 1966.]

FINISHERS INDEX (#)

Robert E. Derecktor, Mamaroneck, NY, U.S.A. (2)
Trevor Duncan Ltd., Bonchurch, Isle of Wight, England (1) (prof. pseudn. of composer 1st owner of 949W, Leonard Charles Trebilco)
Field Aircraft Services Ltd.,(Marine Division), Wymeswold, Leicestershire, England (5)
Island Boatbuilders, Cowes, Isle of Wight, England (1)
Krentz Marine Railway, Callao, VA, U.S.A. (1)
A. LeComte Co., Jutphaas, Holland (11)
MacLachlan Lumber Co., Kingston, Ontario, Canada (1)
Poul Molich, Hundested, Denmark (26)
R. Morse Boatbuilding Corp., Thomaston, ME, U.S.A. (proper name?) (1)
Palmer Johnson Boats, Inc., Sturgeon Bay, WI, U.S.A. (3)
Saybrook Marine Company, Saybrook, CT, U.S.A. (proper name and location?) (1)
W.A. Souter & Son (Cowes) Ltd., Cowes, Isle of Wight, England (1)
Ernest Wade Ltd., (+ E.D. Groom), Bembridge, Isle of Wight, England (1)

ALDEN CHALLENGER NAME ONLY (not yet connected to an Alden #)

(In year of build order, then alphabetical)

Present ""/Year Built/Original Rig/Moulder[#]/Finisher[#]/Home Port (default USA)

PRION/1964/?/?/?/?(Canadian Flag) - thought to be 949SS


ALDEN ZEPHYR
  • Keel Centreboard 36'4" loa Sloop/Yawl; 25'0" lwl, 10'6" beam, 4'0" draft, 11,100 lbs displ.
  • Design Date = 1959
Alden#/Year Built/Original Rig/Moulder[#]/Finisher[#]/Orig Name('s)/PRESENT NAME/Last known home port (default USA)

- * after last name = not known if this is present name.
- Boats in bold type = intelligence received during the life of this thread.
- Links in GREEN = vessel available for charter.

959A/1961/Sloop/Halmatic[#1083]/Field[#?]/Tadpole/Irondequoit III/Diana/MILLIE JO/Mobjack-Chesapeake
959B/1961/Sloop/Halmatic[#1087]/Halmatic-Field[#?]/Zephyr/Fanny/MAVEN/Easton,MD
959C/1961/Yawl/Halmatic[#?]/Halmatic-Field[#?]/Raven/Dundee/Brabant/Foolish Things/ZEPHYRANTHES/Kittery Point,ME
959D/1961/Yawl/Halmatic[#?]/Derecktor[#?]/Serendipity*/(orig.Corpus Christi,TX)
959E/1961/Sloop/Halmatic[#?]/Halmatic-Field[#?]/Zephyr*/(orig.Miami,FL)
959F/1962/Sloop/ Halmatic[#?]/Halmatic-Field[#?]/Gigi/Quasar/Namaste/MOTH/Waquoit,MA
959G/1962/Sloop/Halmatic[#?]/LeComte? (or Halmatic-Field)/Chipmunk/ORCA/Cape Coral,FL
959H/1962/Sloop/Halmatic[#?]/Molich[#?]/Vanity*/Denmark (appears to be full keel, no centre board, in May 2011 brokerage photo, presumed 959H)
959J/1962/Sloop/Halmatic[#?]/?[#?]/Field[#?]/Black Magic*/(orig. Kalundborg, Denmark)
959K/1963/Sloop/Halmatic[#?]/Halmatic-Field[#?]/Wahoo/Istar/Bandito/Felicity*/orig.St. Louis,MO)

Total built = 10

MOULDERS INDEX (#)

Halmatic Ltd., Portsmouth, Hampshire, England (all)

[Note May 24, 2007: Halmatic location now shown as Portsmouth, Hampshire, England from previous Havant, Hampshire, England. Believe company moved from Portsmouth to Havant in 1966.]

FINISHERS INDEX (#)

Robert E. Derecktor, Mamaroneck, NY, U.S.A. (1)
Halmatic/Field Aircraft Services Ltd.,(Marine Division), Wymeswold, Leicestershire, England (7?)
A. LeComte Co., Jutphaas, Holland (1?)
Poul Molich, Hundested, Denmark (1)


ALDEN MISTRAL
  • Full Keel 36'4" loa Sloop/Yawl; 26'6" lwl, 10'6" beam, 4'9" draft, 14,000 lbs displ.
  • Design Date = 1962
Alden#/Year Built/Original Rig/Moulder[#]/Finisher[#]/Orig Name('s)/PRESENT NAME/Last known home port (default USA)

- * after last name = not known if this is present name.
- Boats in bold type = intelligence received during the life of this thread.
- Links in GREEN = vessel available for charter.

981A/1964/Sloop/Halmatic[#1237]/Field[#1237]/Cortship/Sun Chaser/Windvogel/CARMINA/Seattle,WA
981B/1964/Yawl/Halmatic[#?]/Field[#?]/Serendipity/Antarqui/PERIGEE/Gloucester,MA
981C/1965/Sloop/Halmatic[#?]/Field[#?]/Galliard/Makai/Perelandra*/(orig.Hartford,CT)
981D/1965/Sloop/Halmatic[#?]/Field[#?]/JOLIE/Seabrook,TX
981E/1965/Yawl/Halmatic[#?]/Field[#?]/Sirocco/Debonair/Saki/SENSATIONAL/North East River,MD
981F/1966/Sloop/Halmatic[#?]/Moody[#?]/Sonsie*/(Orig. Hamble,England)
981G/1965/Sloop/Halmatic[#?]/Field[#?]/(orig.Halmatic demo.boat,England)/TI/VT
981H/1966/Sloop/Halmatic[#?]/Field[#?]/Vedra K(orig.England)/True North*/Halifax.N.S.('80)
981J/1966/Sloop/Halmatic[#]/Field[#]/Oleander of Bosham/OLEANDER/West coast of Scotland
981K/1966/Sloop/Halmatic[#?]/Halmatic[#?]/MISS DEMENA/Kinsale,Ireland
981L/1966/Yawl/Halmatic[#?]/Molich[#?]/MELTEMI/Marion,MA
[?981(M)/1968/Sloop/Halmatic[#?]/Halmatic or Field/?/?]

Total built = 11? or 12?

MOULDERS INDEX (#)

Halmatic Ltd., Portsmouth/ Havant, Hampshire, England (all)

[Note May 24, 2007: Halmatic location now shown as Portsmouth/ Havant, Hampshire, England from previous Havant, Hampshire, England. Believe company moved from Portsmouth to Havant in 1966. Not clear yet if later Mistral hulls were built at Portsmouth or Havant.]

FINISHERS INDEX (#)

Field Aircraft Services Ltd.,(Marine Division), Wymeswold, Leicestershire, England (8 or 9)
Halmatic Ltd., Portsmouth/ Havant, England (1)
Poul Molich, Hundested, Denmark (1)
A.H. Moody & Son Ltd., Swanwick Shore, Hampshire, England (1)

Note: The Alden Mistral hull lines were used in 1965 as the basis for the Nicholson 38 motor-sailer, moulded by Halmatic for Camper & Nicholsons. 138 were built. More info at the Nicholson 38 Owners Group website here, including a downloadable Alden sail plan for the sloop rigged Mistral here (download to view properly).

ALDEN CARAVELLE
  • Full Keel 41'7" loa Sloop/Yawl; 28'0" lwl, 11'0" beam, 5'10" draft, 19,500 lbs displ.
  • Design Date = 1964
Alden#/Year Built/Original Rig/Moulder[#]/Finisher[#]/Orig Name('s)/PRESENT NAME/Last known home port (default USA)

- * after last name = not known if this is present name.
- Boats in bold type = intelligence received during the life of this thread.
- Links in GREEN = vessel available for charter.

(trunk config: w = wood; stfg = stepped fiberglass; fg = straight fiberglass [NB: “?” = poss. trunk config. errors in
list ex Alden: “!” = def. error in Alden list – what's shown here is correct])

992A/1965/Sloop[w]/Halmatic[#?]/Molich[#?]/Excalibur/Ail/Cythera/BOUNDING HOME/Stonington,CT
992B/1965/Yawl[w!]/Halmatic[1311?]/Molich[0362?]/HIGHLIGHT/Islesboro,ME
992C/1965/Sloop[w!]/Halmatic[#?]/Molich[#?]/SEPTEMBER SONG/MD
992D/1966/Sloop[w!]/Halmatic[#?]/Molich[#?]/WIND SONG/Marion,MA
992E/1966/Sloop[w]/Halmatic[#?]/Molich[#?]/Fine Feather/Serea/Astrid/Marcia/SERENA/NE Hbr,ME
992F/1966/Sloop[w!(&all deck structure)]/Halmatic[#]/Molich[#?]/AEOLUS/Sturgeon Bay,WI
992G/1966/Yawl[w!]/Halmatic[#?]/Molich[#?]/Andante II/Beady II/SATORI/Camden,ME
992H/1969/Yawl[stfg]/Halmatic[#?]/Morse[#?]/Triumph/West o’The Moon?
992J/1969/Yawl[stfg]/Halmatic[#?]/Halmatic & J.J.Bickford/CARAVELA OF EXE/Denmark
992K/1967/Sloop[stfg]/Halmatic[#?]/Halmatic[#?]/Trotolla*/(orig. Italy)
992L/1969/Yawl[w]/Halmatic[#?]/Molich[#?]/Pole Star/Patience/ACADIA/East Boothbay,ME
992M/1969/Yawl[w]/Halmatic[#?]/Molich[#?]/Dawn Piper/CYTHERA/Oxford,SC

????/1969?/Yawl[stfg]/Halmatic?[#?]/Hodgdon?[#?]/Serenity/PEARL/Southport,CT

992N/1971/Yawl[fg]/Hodgdon/Hodgdon [4201]/Chaser*
992O/1971/Sloop[fg]/Hodgdon/Hodgdon[4202]/Carim/Rambler/She/KALIMERA/San Blas,Panama
992P/1972/Sloop[fg]/Hodgdon/Hodgdon[4203]/BANJO GIRL/East Coast USA
992Q/1973/Sloop[fg]/Hodgdon/Hodgdon [4204]/Lady Alice*
992R/1973/Sloop[fg]/Hodgdon/Hodgdon [4205]/Chic/Sarasea/BONNIE ANN/Marina Kukljica, Croatia
992S/1973('74?)/Sloop[fg]/Hogdon/Hodgdon [4206]/Dream’s End II/Scamper?/SENSU/Falmouth,ME

Total built = 18

MOULDERS INDEX (#)

Halmatic Ltd., Portsmouth/ Havant, Hampshire, England (12)

Hodgdon Bros, East Boothbay, ME (6)

[Note May 24, 2007: Halmatic location now shown as Portsmouth/ Havant, Hampshire, England from previous Havant, Hampshire, England. Believe company moved from Portsmouth to Havant in 1966. Not clear yet if later Halmatic Caravelle hulls were built at Portsmouth or Havant.

FINISHERS INDEX (#)

J.J. Bickford, Exmouth, Devon, England
Halmatic Ltd., Portsmouth/Havant, England (2)
Hodgdon Bros, East Boothbay, ME (6)
Poul Molich, Hundested, Denmark (9)
R. Morse Boatbuilding Corp., Thomaston, ME, U.S.A. (proper name?) (1)[/COLOR]
 
Apr 7, 2006
103
This is really great!

949N: TARNA/MUSKRAT/ 1960/ Halmatic/Derecktors/Smiths of Southport, ME.

2 more years to the 50th ann of the Challenger design, 4 to the first hulls, unless there were some in 1959. Hmmmmmmm....

I wonder if the gap between design & build was due to developing enough interest before the molds were built? I think Alden tries to keep their own list as well. We actually got an email Happy Holidays from them!
 

CaravelaofExe

Alden Forum Moderator
Jan 24, 2006
221
Alden Caravelle 42 / Northern European waters
Born in the 50's

Thanks; nice to get feedback for what can occasionally seem a slightly nerdy task!

Was she built as and remain a yawl?

I didn’t realise the Challenger design date went as far back as 1958. Does provenance for that come from the Alden office?
 
Apr 7, 2006
103
Yes- Went to their website and you can order plans, etc for all their designs.

The Specifications were for design No. 937 (typed) and then 949 added in pen(cil). 937 was for a 27'-0" centerboard yawl dated July 17, 1958 initialled D.G.P.. From what I received there is an addenda No. 2 to Spec Design 937 which becomes design No. 949 on August 8, 1958- also intialled D.G.P.

It seem differences are small other than a reduction of draft from 4'-3" to 4'0" (which is still really small in my book!). With out going line by line the changes appear to be more cosmetic, but there is a section missing about hull construction, etc. I've wondered if they took a wood hull design and lessened the draft for a fiberglas hull (to compensate for weight) or ??? I'm not at all familiar with this end of yacht design but may be we can fill in the blanks.

How many 937a-z's are there??? What do they look like??

I've emailed back and forth with Niels Helleberg at Alden and he has been incredibly helpful about any questions. This is one I've never thought to ask. But I will!!
 
Dec 17, 2006
5
949O Boat list update

Alden 949O was the only Challenger finished at the Saybrook Marine Company in Connecticut. Its original name was Windoon II. Subsequent names were Petrel, and Magic. Since our purchase in 2000 it has carried the name Fleana. Home port is now Bangor, Maine.

I made an inquiry to the Alden Company which indicated that they have record of 54.

Dan Cassidy
 

TomY

Alden Forum Moderator
Jun 22, 2004
1,940
Alden 38' Challenger yawl Rockport Harbor
Thank you Iain for taking the time for this.

We'll all benefit, this is the master list already. I immediately thought of ECHO, the Challenger owned by the Cabot family and kept in Cabot Cove, Pulpit Harbor, North Haven Island, Maine. I don't see her yet.

Also, the Caravelle in Camden Harbor I've been onboard. I can't think of the name or owner but will in time.

This winter I plan to ask Alden again about the mystery of my boats builders plate. They had no idea why the plate has the correct number (letter Y) but the incorrect design # 917. Does anyone know what design 917 was, date etc?

Thank you again, I'll do some research in my neighborhood to hopefully plug a hole or two.
 

CaravelaofExe

Alden Forum Moderator
Jan 24, 2006
221
Alden Caravelle 42 / Northern European waters
Re: ECHO & the mystery of 517

Hi Tom,

I had an ECHO listed against 949R and have pasted your info there.

Is she and was she a yawl? Year? Moulder? Finisher?

Can I assume that all Challengers are/ were yawls?

Can I assume that all Challenger were moulded by Halmatic?

It was from one of your previous posts that I picked up the info about TARNA/1964/low aft cabin top/Hancock,Me. Any more info about her very welcome.

If number built was 54-56 did the Alden alphabet restart with 949AAA?

Sorry!
 
Apr 7, 2006
103
I heard from Niels at Alden. He e-mailed their list of all Challengers built w/ orig owner, builder, etc. I don't know how to post it here- bubt I'll try. Send me an email and I'll attach it if your interested.

Apparently Challengers have a cousin- the 937 design is wood! 3" deeper draft & 750# more lead. One was built in 1963 for an owner in Aukland, New Zealand.

There also is a sloop/cutter challenger built in 1963 and finished by Molich. Only one was built but in all 56 Challengers were built..[/img]
 

TomY

Alden Forum Moderator
Jun 22, 2004
1,940
Alden 38' Challenger yawl Rockport Harbor
Iain, I believe all were molded at Hallmatic.

I don't know of any built as anything but yawls. ECHO looks slightly different so may have been finished elsewhere. She look s all original and has aluminum spars(I believe that was an option)

Also, the Alden Caravelle in Camden Harbor Maine is named SATORI.

SATORI has the wooden cabinsides. Were the Caravelles all finished that way Iain?
 

CaravelaofExe

Alden Forum Moderator
Jan 24, 2006
221
Alden Caravelle 42 / Northern European waters
Re: Challenger ECHO and Caravelle SATORI

Caravelle SATORI now entered at 992G, along with other Caravelle updates. Thanks to Scott Kraft (992A) for his good work in keeping track of the Caravelles. He has now accounted for 12 of the 18 built.

Regarding Alden design numbers... it's always been a bit exasperating that the Alden designs list by number in "John Alden and his Yacht Designs" stops in 1955 - but understandable as the book sets out to cover only designs during Alden's working life.

I wonder who "D.G.P." was at the Alden office? The Caravelle drawings are signed "C.S.". Niels Helleberg is sure that stands for Clifford Swaine, who worked with Alden from the 1920's through 1970's, and retired as Chief Designer.

All input - especially to fill in the "?"'s gratefully received.
 
Sep 13, 2004
93
Hunter 30_88-94 New Orleans LA
949BB 1960/Yawl/Halmatic/Le Comte #35/Snow Goose/Hosanna II/Stormbird/Cotuit, MA
 
Sep 9, 2004
39
Wonderful list

Thank you for a huge effort.
To add a few details:
According to information sent to me from Alden, 949EE was originally owned by Frederick W. Ludwig, Jr., of Darien, Ct. and named "Mirily." Subsequent names included "Willing Slave," "Sunsong," and "Gypsea." And now "Essay."
She is still yawl rigged with aluminum masts and wooden booms, and was a product of Halmatic/LeComte.
Dave Richardson, Port Charlotte, Fla.
 

CaravelaofExe

Alden Forum Moderator
Jan 24, 2006
221
Alden Caravelle 42 / Northern European waters
Re: 949EE

Thanks Dave,

Any idea of provenance for the Halmatic number I have listed for her? Looks kind of close to the LeComte number now listed for 949BB...

Is date of build correct?
 
Sep 9, 2004
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Iain, the designation 949EE comes from Niels Helleberg and also from the U.S. Coast Guard documentation, which lists the same original owner as listed with Alden and shows subsequent owners to the present. That's all I have; it seems consistent, if not totally conclusive.
 

CaravelaofExe

Alden Forum Moderator
Jan 24, 2006
221
Alden Caravelle 42 / Northern European waters
Re: 949EE

It was the "Halmatic" number I was referring to: "[#29?]". I must have picked this up from somewhere in the Forum. It seems more likely to be a LeComte number as I'm pretty sure Halmatic numbers were in the 1000's. See for example 949W: her Halmatic number, 1168, came from Lloyds Register of Yachts, 1964 (U.K. edition).
 

TomY

Alden Forum Moderator
Jun 22, 2004
1,940
Alden 38' Challenger yawl Rockport Harbor
Do I have the numbering clear?

Alden used the alphabet and omitted the letter "I,i" so A through Z is 25 Challengers. And then #26 is titled AA, 27 is BB etc. until the 25 double letters are again assigned. Then we go on to AAA which is in fact the 53rd Challenger built?

Iain, my boat lived as GANDER TOO for around 35 years in Hingham Mass owned by the Brewer family. It was their great care over those years that kept the boat in great shape. I've still no clue as to the Alden build plate being 917-Y. I'll be removing it this year(I have to rebuild the slide), there may be a clue on the back.

In the future, it may be worthwhile documenting any former owners or other info for these boats on a future site. This type of information erodes and would be useful for future owners.

This is wonderful. Can you bring the other Caravelle owners onboard the site here?
 

CaravelaofExe

Alden Forum Moderator
Jan 24, 2006
221
Alden Caravelle 42 / Northern European waters
Re: Lettering, numbering and Caravelles

The start point for my list was the photographed lists from Aldens, which appear on the early days Forum gallery, I think posted by “rtyszka”, at http://reno2.com/alden/images/949/Tyszka/20050411/.

That list stops at 949VV. Two Forum members have offered me copies of what I understand to be similar but more complete lists and I await their arrival with interest. In the meantime the most recent version includes input from a trawl of 1960’s editions of the U.K. version of Lloyds Register of Yachts. I’m looking forward to browsing copies of the U.S. version during the summer. If anyone knows of a set available in Europe, please let me know.

917 could be your boat’s Halmatic number? As I think I’ve mentioned before my Halmatic moulded Caravelle has a Lloyds building plate attached to the inside of the transom. As she doesn’t have an aft deck hatch I’ve been beaten in properly reading the number by a combination of awkwardness of access, slight claustrophobia and corrosion of the aluminium plate.

Regarding bringing in other Caravelle, Mistral and Zephyr owners - (what about the 44ft Alden Countess? Is that considered part of this family, or does the large deckhouse change things?) - I’ve mentioned the Forum to central Caravelle contact, Scott Kraft and he has assisted me in updating the Caravelle list here. I think we need to ask David’s permission to re-title the Forum, so that it is obviously seen as a broader based thing and then spread the word through people like Scott.
 
Feb 22, 2006
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Information on Mistral 981-A

Iain,

Great work so far.

Here is the complete info on my Mistral, 981-A

981A/1964/Sloop/Halmatic[#1237]/Field[#1237]/Cortship/CARMINA/Seattle,WA

The dates on the 981 drawing is 1962 and the Mistral is referred to as a "Aux. "RFG" Keel Sloop. Actually 981-A, I have been told by Neils, was the only sloop, the rest were Yawls.

The Zephyr drawings, Model 959 are dated 1959 and the boat is referred to as Aux"RFG" C.B. Sloop.

The original owner of 981-A was B.B. Snyder, Jr. of Santa Cruz, CA