I've had a few sailboats but this is the first Catalina 22 that I've owned. I have no idea what the two chrome ports on the port side, close to the transom,are. One faces the bow and the other faces the stern. It seems as though, even considering that they allow air to enter the boat, that they also allow water to enter the boat. Under the cockpit locker on the port side, there are two flexible hoses.....but they don't go anywhere! They go from the the chrome air conductors to ?, nowhere! If water gets in through the vents it seems as though it could sink the boat. Any advice? Thanks, James
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MIKE
VENTS
All I know is I put some screen inside the vents to prevent wasps from building nests in there. I also keep my gasoline on that side, so the vents let out the fumes I suppose.
All I know is I put some screen inside the vents to prevent wasps from building nests in there. I also keep my gasoline on that side, so the vents let out the fumes I suppose.
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Brad Alston
Air/Water Scoops
James, Mike is exactly correct! Those chrome scoops, found on older model C-22s, are for vetilation of the space beneath the cockpit. Reason being is that if you will notice that little flat spot near the stern..that is for a portable gas tank. The forward facing scoop brings the fresh air into the compartment while the aft facing vent creates a vacuum that will suck the air out of the compartment. Nice in theory, but gas fumes in that compartment are not good since it is open to the cabin. Also not good is, as you have noticed, those scoops can, and will, allow water to enter the boat. I have not yet, but plan on doing it soon, replace the scoops with flat plates to seal the deck in that area...there really is no need for the scoops if you don't store gas below. Good sailing! Brad. s/v Worthless Crew 1972 C-22SK #1520
James, Mike is exactly correct! Those chrome scoops, found on older model C-22s, are for vetilation of the space beneath the cockpit. Reason being is that if you will notice that little flat spot near the stern..that is for a portable gas tank. The forward facing scoop brings the fresh air into the compartment while the aft facing vent creates a vacuum that will suck the air out of the compartment. Nice in theory, but gas fumes in that compartment are not good since it is open to the cabin. Also not good is, as you have noticed, those scoops can, and will, allow water to enter the boat. I have not yet, but plan on doing it soon, replace the scoops with flat plates to seal the deck in that area...there really is no need for the scoops if you don't store gas below. Good sailing! Brad. s/v Worthless Crew 1972 C-22SK #1520
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tom b cat-22 #3317
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so that explains the bilge pump...ha ha...and whats wrong with a little gas fume in the cabin...hey got a lite...hmmm rocket powered sailboat....but yup thats what those shiny lookin things are for...
so that explains the bilge pump...ha ha...and whats wrong with a little gas fume in the cabin...hey got a lite...hmmm rocket powered sailboat....but yup thats what those shiny lookin things are for...
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Dick of Sylvan
Venting Newer Model 22's?
Mike, how do the newer 22's vent below the cockpit, or do they carry fuel on the topside somehow? My 75 22 has vents both port and starboard, but only opening toward the stern. Yes they do take in water when you get knocked down and they do have screens a la insects. I carry my gas in the cockpit under the tiller since the current vents don't pass code and I don't want to put in ones that would make me take in even more water during a near-knockdown. Is there a better way? Dick
Mike, how do the newer 22's vent below the cockpit, or do they carry fuel on the topside somehow? My 75 22 has vents both port and starboard, but only opening toward the stern. Yes they do take in water when you get knocked down and they do have screens a la insects. I carry my gas in the cockpit under the tiller since the current vents don't pass code and I don't want to put in ones that would make me take in even more water during a near-knockdown. Is there a better way? Dick
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Bayard Gross
C-22 Air Scoops
I do not think it is wise to substantially alter the fuel ventilation scoops on any boat. Such would be akin to altering the emissions equipment on your car. The manufacturer in accordance with Coast Guard regulations effective at the time of manufacture installs these devices. While they may produce some set backs, they have a required function to fulfill and must always be on the boat if such were required when the manufacturer made the boat. You could be fined for either changing or substantially altering these devices. As for the C-22 air scoops, if you have water getting in when you sail, you heeling too much and no longer sailing efficiently. You are probably going sideways as much forward. I believe racers do not like to heel past 20 degrees. Also, do not forget that there are just four bolts holding in the five hundred-pound swing keel. How much lateral force do you want to place on those bolts when you heel? Tp prevent rainwater from blowing into the C-22 scoops, as would occur on a mooring, you can stuff a tennis size ball into the forward facing scoop. Attach a string, so you can remove it. I personally cheat a little with these scoops on my C-22. I run the fuel line from my external tank throught the aft-facing scoop to my outboard. Probably not legal, but until I am officially told not to do so, I will continue to do so. However, I continue this cheating by also running the alternator output wire from my outboard throught the same aft-facing scoop. The way I figure it, that wire is going to go through the fuel compartment downward to the cabin bulkhead where the gas fumes collect anyway, so I do not think I am endangering myself to a greater extent. And that is why there is a long tube on the bow-facing scoop. It is to blow air into that part of the boat where gas fumes settle and help dissipate them back out the aft facing scoop.
I do not think it is wise to substantially alter the fuel ventilation scoops on any boat. Such would be akin to altering the emissions equipment on your car. The manufacturer in accordance with Coast Guard regulations effective at the time of manufacture installs these devices. While they may produce some set backs, they have a required function to fulfill and must always be on the boat if such were required when the manufacturer made the boat. You could be fined for either changing or substantially altering these devices. As for the C-22 air scoops, if you have water getting in when you sail, you heeling too much and no longer sailing efficiently. You are probably going sideways as much forward. I believe racers do not like to heel past 20 degrees. Also, do not forget that there are just four bolts holding in the five hundred-pound swing keel. How much lateral force do you want to place on those bolts when you heel? Tp prevent rainwater from blowing into the C-22 scoops, as would occur on a mooring, you can stuff a tennis size ball into the forward facing scoop. Attach a string, so you can remove it. I personally cheat a little with these scoops on my C-22. I run the fuel line from my external tank throught the aft-facing scoop to my outboard. Probably not legal, but until I am officially told not to do so, I will continue to do so. However, I continue this cheating by also running the alternator output wire from my outboard throught the same aft-facing scoop. The way I figure it, that wire is going to go through the fuel compartment downward to the cabin bulkhead where the gas fumes collect anyway, so I do not think I am endangering myself to a greater extent. And that is why there is a long tube on the bow-facing scoop. It is to blow air into that part of the boat where gas fumes settle and help dissipate them back out the aft facing scoop.
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john renfro
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hello james, i also use the aft scoop to run the fuel line to the o/b. when not in use, i stuff something in them to keep bugs out john
hello james, i also use the aft scoop to run the fuel line to the o/b. when not in use, i stuff something in them to keep bugs out john
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R Kolb
Newer C22 Venting
The newer C22s (mine is a 1986) carry the gas can in a seperate lazarret on the port side. It does not vent to the cabin at all and only serves to carry the gas can. Randy
The newer C22s (mine is a 1986) carry the gas can in a seperate lazarret on the port side. It does not vent to the cabin at all and only serves to carry the gas can. Randy
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MIKE
VENTS
Dick, I have two vents on the port side of my 1976 Cat.22. One faces forward, the other aft.I added the screens myself because of the buildup of wasp nests during the spring. I haven't really looked at newer 22's. Mike
Dick, I have two vents on the port side of my 1976 Cat.22. One faces forward, the other aft.I added the screens myself because of the buildup of wasp nests during the spring. I haven't really looked at newer 22's. Mike
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No Doz
C22 Vents
It's not that hard folks. Stuff a sock in it if it is liable to have incoming water. Geez.....
It's not that hard folks. Stuff a sock in it if it is liable to have incoming water. Geez.....
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Campy
Vents
Sailed hard with my kids a year ago. Shipped some water into the cockpit from the port side when pressing the boat VERY HARD. Didn't worry about the water coming in the vent at the time, but it was minimal at best maybe a couple of gallons. I had to really work at getting the boat over that far though and I suppose I wasn't going that fast at that point either. The wind was probably 20 - 25 knots. No reef either. Windsocket 2226
Sailed hard with my kids a year ago. Shipped some water into the cockpit from the port side when pressing the boat VERY HARD. Didn't worry about the water coming in the vent at the time, but it was minimal at best maybe a couple of gallons. I had to really work at getting the boat over that far though and I suppose I wasn't going that fast at that point either. The wind was probably 20 - 25 knots. No reef either. Windsocket 2226
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