Air conditioning thermostat issue

Nov 30, 2007
272
Hunter 36 Forked River, NJ
Yesterday I was onboard to survey a 2005 Hunter 36 I'm about to buy. We were running the air conditioner for a couple of hours. The controller was set to various temps below ambient outside temp of around 93. The unit blew 59 degree F cold air and the cabin was comfortable, but the Polar Bay controller continuously displayed 87 degrees the whole time. I have no experience with marine air conditioning. The surveyor had no answers. Has anyone seen and fixed this? Any suggestions? Anything to watch out for?
 
May 1, 2011
4,882
Pearson 37 Lusby MD
I have no experience with marine air conditioning either, but is it possible the controller was displaying water temp?
 
Feb 10, 2004
4,097
Hunter 40.5 Warwick, RI
I believe that the controller was displaying the temperature of the return air. The output air is always colder in order to lower the cabin temp. The A/C unit may have been at its limit of cooling with the heat load of 93 outside degrees. In other words, it was running flat out continuously.
 
Nov 30, 2007
272
Hunter 36 Forked River, NJ
NJ bay temp definitely not as high as 87 degrees. I agree that it may have been running continuously due to outside heat and absence of insulation. Even my house AC has been running a lot in this weather. However the cabin temp away from ducts definitely felt more like upper 70s. It's hard to see how return duct would be reading 87. Unless maybe the sensor is located near a hot part of AC unit?
 
Nov 6, 2006
10,055
Hunter 34 Mandeville Louisiana
The sensor is usually on the outward looking face of the thermostat. If in a hotter part of the cabin or had sun on it, it could be reading high. In the hottest part of the day, mine runs continuously because iit does not have enough capacity to get to the temp set point.
A 36 would need somewhere around 20,000 btu capacity to cool that boat to set point with sun and humidity load and 90+ ambient.. Did you note the capacity of the unit?
Another thing to check would be the sea water flow side. A dirty strainer or restricted flow can decrease cooling capacity.
 
Jan 4, 2006
7,178
Hunter 310 West Vancouver, B.C.
Got an IR gun in your back pocket ? This would be the only way to tell what is going on at each point. The read out at the stat is almost certainly room temp but the thing here, as @Rich Stidger pointed out is whether the read out temp is at the stat or is the temp of the return air as it enters the machine. A few more readings would help.

Might be worth a few haggling dollars but not a deal breaker.
 
Feb 27, 2005
187
Hunter 33.5 Missouri
Two weeks ago 95 plus outside air temp. Our AC ran non stop, about 12 hours. Thermostat set at 84, lowest day time temp it could achieve inside the boat was 88. The condenser froze up about 7 pm. Shut it down for 30 minutes to thaw out and it resumed cooling again. 16,000 BTU unit. As mentioned, no insulation makes it hard to effectively cool during the heat of the day.
 
Jan 4, 2006
7,178
Hunter 310 West Vancouver, B.C.
Do you have exterior window coverings for your ports and hatches. I emphasize exterior as if they interior, you've already let the energy in and you hooped (or cooked) which ever the case may be.

I don't have AC as 75 deg. F outdoor temp is a hot day here. I only have port covers so far as I have not come up with a good design for a hatch cover yet. The port covers caused a large drop in interior temp when I installed them.

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Jan 24, 2017
670
Hunter 34 Toms River Nj
Most ac systems are designed to give a temperature difference of 10 - 15 degrees based on normal average temperature. Example if outside temperature is 80 degrees then one could expect to achieve 70 - 65 degrees inside temperature, however other factors have to be taken into consideration that can drastically reduce the units ability to achieve the inside temperature.

1. insulation, on boats is practically no existing.
2. Windows, just like in a car allows tremendous btu heat gain.
3. Internal btu heat gain, such as lights, appliances, fan motors, tv, radios
4. People and pets.

There are much more things to factor in when trying to calculate total btu within a living space, but these are a few big ones to consider.
I have a 34 footer and would have liked to have installed a 20k btu unit but unfortunately had to install a 16k unit due to space and power limitations.

my unit runs almost continuously when outside temperature reaches 85 plus.
My Unit definitely reduces the cabin temperature and it is definitely much more comfortable on hot days however on 90 degree day the best cabin temperature I usually can achieve is 78 degrees. Which is a huge difference from the outside temperature, however the biggest deference is that the humidity level is substantially less. Although the temperature is still pretty high at 78 degrees, it’s much more comfortable then outside in the sun

Things that help reduce the load on my unit is maximizing air flow, lots of discharge vents, and always cleaning the intake filter almost every day the unit is running.
Keeping the raw water lines and strainer clear.
One thing that had made a huge difference is I cut window, port light, and hatch inserts out of automotive windshield aluminum foil foam sun shield. I made all the inserts approximately 1/8 inch bigger than the inside openings so that the press in nice and snug and stay in place on there own.

hope this helps
 
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Nov 30, 2007
272
Hunter 36 Forked River, NJ
Thanks all. I'm sure the AC was doing it's job, but continually fighting the sun and heat and absence of insulation. We closed on Thursday and spent the weekend on the new to us boat, and enjoyed a comfortable cabin throughout the heat advisory warning.
 
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Oct 21, 2009
316
hunter 38 Monaco
The return air filter is under the seats. You have to regularly clean these filters. If you take the inlet filter off to clean it ( mine was fixed with 4 wood screws, thank you QC Hunter) you will see the temperature sensor in the airstream. Just check the way it is installed. Mine was fixed with a metal support on the outside of the cooling frame. So the sensor only ever gets a reading of the cooling frame. I guess there are other Hunter AC installations set up in the same stupid way. That will explain the constant temperature readings.
 
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Aug 19, 2021
505
Hunter 280 White House Cove Marina
I doubt the temperature is measured at the return.
If the discharge air temp was 59°F the AC was doing all it can do.
The easy solution is to measure the temperature at the thermostat and see it they match. As in match +/-10°F. They are not calibrated thermometers.
To get your thermometers for accuracy a bowl of ice water is 32°F and boiling water is 212°F
I carry one of these in my personal toolbag
 
Jul 23, 2009
879
Beneteau 31 Oceanis Grand Lake, Oklahoma
It is on our H38.
It's measured at the return air on my current boat. My old boat had an old mechanical thermostat, so technically it was measured at the thermostat but not displayed. The bulb for the mechanical thermostat was in the return air stream though. At home it's measured at the thermostats. So I guess it depends on the system.

Today it was 100 degrees and humid. I'm glad I wasn't working on AC units today.