Advice on chart plotter

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Jun 14, 2004
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NULL NULL Holly Springs, NC
I'm in the market for a chart plotter and wanted to get some advice before I pull the trigger. I'm looking at a gray scale Hummingbird 161c combination depth sounder/chart plotter. It goes for around $270 new. Has anyone had any experience with Hummingbird chartplotters and this model in particular. Are the built in maps detailed enough? Do they provide depth data? Is color worth the extra bucks? Any other insights in what to look for in a chartplotter would be appreciated. Kevin
 
Jul 24, 2006
370
Macgregor 25 Tulsa, Ok.
Humminbird Owner Here

Kevin, I started out looking at the 300 series. Depth and chart with GPS speed was my criteria. Originally I looked at grayscale but had real or imagined doubts about read-ability in sunlight. I was going to purchase a 383C. I ordered from a discount house on the east coast, got jerked around for a month and I finally cancelled the order. By that time, I'd looked more into the Humminbird line and started looking at the 700 series, specfically the 757C. The screen was larger and based on where I sit at the helm of my M-25 and the advancing age of my eyes, I figured I needed a larger screen. As well, they were offering free Weathersense, which is their barometer add-on as a rebate. As promised on the rebate card, It took about 6 weeks to get the barometer unit and I installed it last week. I was about to pull the trigger on that when I happened to walk into the Bass Pro in Oklahoma City only to find a 787 C with an external antenna on close-out for $525. I'm assuming they are phasing out the external antenna units, this was still in the packaging and had not been a demo. The only differences I could see in the 757 v. 787 is a higher resolution screen which is fine wtih me. On to the maps- their Uni-map system sounds great on the advertising. It is good, but does not have the depth contours built in. Since my lake is still up about 20 ft. over normal I'm not too concerned about having depth contours right at the moment. I'll get the map card at some point this winter, I imagine, as I plan to start going to some different lakes next year. Overall, I've been very happy with the quality of the product. I'm sure there are people who have bought Lowrance, Eagle, Garmin, or whatever who will tell you they are happy with their units as well. I've not found anything I don't like about it yet, other than the "Uni-Maps" which come factory installed are more basic than you are led to believe.
 

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Jul 14, 2004
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Bristol 30 Le Roy, Mi.
Chart Plotters

I have several, on different boats. Handhelds work as well as the larger installed ones, and as I have now tried the hand helds, I wish I had started with them. They use less power, are just as accurate, do everything the hard mounted ones do (as a GPS), and can be moved from boat to boat. But when sailing off shore I not only carry 3 GPS units, but also a sextant, RDF, and my old Loran C. I know with out back up my batteries will take a dump and I'll be back to the old ways. Now, if you are new to sailing/boating and your navigation skills aren't that good I really don't think a GPS with fish finder unit is the way to go. You will fail to keep (record) any fixes on your charts, you won't learn how to take a fix, or run a DR. GPS is great, but it can go down. You have to know how to do with out before counting on it. Back up that depth finder with a lead and line, cheap and easy to make and use.
 
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I just bought the Garmin 398 off of e-bay

Hey I just bought the Garmin off of e-bay from a guy named wackyrubbers. Very good dealer. I got the unit for 500 bucks out the door shipping and handling and everything. I love it. It is awesome. Something you might want to look into.
 
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Capt. Strap Foot

Where did you learn the old way of Chart reading.

Very interested in learning traditional navigation. How did you learn it and does anyone know any good free sites on the web that teaches it.
 
May 4, 2005
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Macgregor 26d Ft Lauderdale, Fl
I learnd w/ power squadran

the US coast guard auxillary offers 'safe boating' classes (as does the USCG power squadran), and a succesful passing, should save a few bucks on insurance. at least it did in 95 when I took it. they offer advance classes too at very resonable rates.. typically at local HS in evening. everyone should take the basic class. covers charts, DR, and basic rules of road, and safety.
 

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Bristol 30 Le Roy, Mi.
Learn to Navigate

Buy a copy and read it Bowditch, The American Practical Navigator is the bible on marine navigation.
 

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Jul 14, 2004
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Bristol 30 Le Roy, Mi.
Where to Learn

Power Squadran has a good basic corse, but if you take the Auxillary basic corse then they also used to offer a good navigation corse. Basic Coastal navigation. It is a good corse covering terrestial navigation and chart plotting. You will be able to do a DR and figure tides and currents after this corse. With a good knowledge of running fixes, teaching your self celestial navigation isn't that hard. Bowditch covers everything.
 
Jun 14, 2004
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NULL NULL Holly Springs, NC
I went for it.

Bought the Humminbird 161C, so in a few weeks I should be able to give my own review on it. One thing I noted is that it comes with a transom mounted transducer, but the manufacturer has a "trade-in" policy for the transducer where you send them the transom mount and they give you the one you want (+ any price difference if there is one). I'm going to trade in for the shoot-thru puck style as soon as I get it. Thanks for the advice on learning the non-electronic style too. I already have some of those skills, but really should sharpen them up some.
 
Jul 24, 2006
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Macgregor 25 Tulsa, Ok.
Transducer

A lot of people don't bother with the shoot-through transducer, they just epoxy the transom-mount one to the hull. It will work just fine, you won't have accurated temperature sensing, that's all. I'm using the transom mount set next to the forward keel box, starboard side. Quite accurate soundings.
 
Apr 30, 2006
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Macgregor 26s Kemah, TX
Mounted on the Transom

I have a Garmin fishfinder in grayscale. I mounted the transducer on the transom and ran the wires into the cabin. It took two screws and a little 5200. I have no trouble reading the display in any light. If your chartplotter doesn't show depths, be sure to get something - charts, additional software, etc. - that does.
 
Jul 24, 2006
370
Macgregor 25 Tulsa, Ok.
Heel?

How well does that transom mount work when you are heeled over to the opposite side?
 
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