We are new to sailing (like very new) and recently bought a 1995 H26 with a Doyle mainsail. The reef point on this sail appears quite high and we would like to know if we should have other reef points added and where. The boat does not have a jiffy reef system. Should we do this also. The jib is standard and is a roller furling type.
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Jeff
2nd Reef
Ray, Last year when we had the main sail for our 1996 H26 cleaned. It also needed some minor repair. I sent it to a company called "Sail Care". Their web site is www.sailcare.com. After they looked over my sail and quoted the work, I asked about a 2nd reef. They said the original reef (Doyle Sail) was a little higher than normal. Having sailed this boat for three years at this point I decided the 2nd reef was necessary, even if it would be placed higher than normal. It is located about 4' above the first and cost $85 to put in. The inland lake I sail on occasionally has winds above 20 mph at times. We use the 2nd reef at this point and pull the furled jib out till the helm is balanced. Works very well. BTW Sailcare does very good work. "Festivity" H26 1996
Ray, Last year when we had the main sail for our 1996 H26 cleaned. It also needed some minor repair. I sent it to a company called "Sail Care". Their web site is www.sailcare.com. After they looked over my sail and quoted the work, I asked about a 2nd reef. They said the original reef (Doyle Sail) was a little higher than normal. Having sailed this boat for three years at this point I decided the 2nd reef was necessary, even if it would be placed higher than normal. It is located about 4' above the first and cost $85 to put in. The inland lake I sail on occasionally has winds above 20 mph at times. We use the 2nd reef at this point and pull the furled jib out till the helm is balanced. Works very well. BTW Sailcare does very good work. "Festivity" H26 1996
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I HAVE PUT TWO INTO MINE. A #1, THE ORGINAL #2 AND A #3. THIS WILL GIVE ME A MAIL SAIL CHOICE.
I HAVE PUT TWO INTO MINE. A #1, THE ORGINAL #2 AND A #3. THIS WILL GIVE ME A MAIL SAIL CHOICE.
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Ron Fraboni
Doyle Reef Point is #2
I had the same issue this year as I considered adding another reef point to my '94 H26 mainsail. Doyle informed me that the reef point put into the original Doyle sail is really positioned high enough so that it would normally be considered as a #2 reef point. The addition of another reef point higher than this would end of being positioned as a #3 reef point. Would be interested in hearing from Jeff concerning how often he uses all three reef points that he now has in his mainsail. My experience is that the original reef point (#2) works well when winds pick up, so I am wondering how the boat sails when the #3 reef point is used and when it is necessary. By the way, I am going to have Sailcare clean and fix up my mainsail based on the good experience others have had.
I had the same issue this year as I considered adding another reef point to my '94 H26 mainsail. Doyle informed me that the reef point put into the original Doyle sail is really positioned high enough so that it would normally be considered as a #2 reef point. The addition of another reef point higher than this would end of being positioned as a #3 reef point. Would be interested in hearing from Jeff concerning how often he uses all three reef points that he now has in his mainsail. My experience is that the original reef point (#2) works well when winds pick up, so I am wondering how the boat sails when the #3 reef point is used and when it is necessary. By the way, I am going to have Sailcare clean and fix up my mainsail based on the good experience others have had.
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Mark Cooper
So I have a dumb question
I have a 240 and have considered adding a second set of reef points; but I'm having problems figuring out how it'd be rigged. The original reef, as you know, loops through the luff of the sail and is adjusted via a line in the boom. There aren't any extra lines or etc to attach a second reef line to. What do you guys do?
I have a 240 and have considered adding a second set of reef points; but I'm having problems figuring out how it'd be rigged. The original reef, as you know, loops through the luff of the sail and is adjusted via a line in the boom. There aren't any extra lines or etc to attach a second reef line to. What do you guys do?
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Jeff Davis
my 240
I would also like to add a second reef point to my 240 mainsail. I would probably not bother with another jiffy reefing line, but just use regular sail ties. Can anyone recommend how high up to go?
I would also like to add a second reef point to my 240 mainsail. I would probably not bother with another jiffy reefing line, but just use regular sail ties. Can anyone recommend how high up to go?
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Rick Webb
Remove the Topping Lift
I added a cheek block and a cleat to the end of the boom and pulled the topping lift out of the boom. It makes it easier to adjust and to remove the boom for trailering.
I added a cheek block and a cleat to the end of the boom and pulled the topping lift out of the boom. It makes it easier to adjust and to remove the boom for trailering.
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Jim Covey
How about for a 2nd reef point?
I am also considering putting in a 2nd reef point (a #3, higher than the OEM) for when winds are above 18-20. My current experience is that the boat sails fine until the 1st reef goes in at about 12-15. Once around 18 I really need a higher reef. So, I was thinking of using the same reef line with a cheek block and a cam cleat. Run the line out of the boom end, through the 1st reef point, down to the cheek block/cleat, then up to the 2nd reef point, back down to the boom and tied off at the bail. To put in the 2nd reef I would uncleat the line at the boom end and pull the reef line in tighter. Would still have to go forward to put the forward reef point on the hook at the mast. Does this make sense? Is there something I'm missing in this idea? Thanks Jim Covey
I am also considering putting in a 2nd reef point (a #3, higher than the OEM) for when winds are above 18-20. My current experience is that the boat sails fine until the 1st reef goes in at about 12-15. Once around 18 I really need a higher reef. So, I was thinking of using the same reef line with a cheek block and a cam cleat. Run the line out of the boom end, through the 1st reef point, down to the cheek block/cleat, then up to the 2nd reef point, back down to the boom and tied off at the bail. To put in the 2nd reef I would uncleat the line at the boom end and pull the reef line in tighter. Would still have to go forward to put the forward reef point on the hook at the mast. Does this make sense? Is there something I'm missing in this idea? Thanks Jim Covey
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Jeff
Sailing Reefed
Anyone that has sailed on a 24 or 26 with water ballast knows how tender they can be. These boats are quick to heel to about 10-15 degrees. The first mate doesn't get the same kind of thrill I do when the winds pick up or even if it's just puffy from time to time. On days we are sailing together (1/2 the time) I've resigned to the fact that reefs may be used. If the wind is predicted to be above 15 mph, one reef goes in at the dock. If the wind is predicted to be over 20 mph and the first mate or guests are along who usually don't want to see the rail in the water, I put the second reef in at the dock. With the 2nd reef in (3rd evidently by Doyle's standard) and enough of the furled jib pulled out to balance the helm our 26 sails like a dream in 20 mph winds. Very little weather helm and she usually settles in around a 15 degree heel. The most she'll take is 32 degrees, then she rounds up. Still haven't figured out how to rig a double reefing system though. "Festivity" H26 1996
Anyone that has sailed on a 24 or 26 with water ballast knows how tender they can be. These boats are quick to heel to about 10-15 degrees. The first mate doesn't get the same kind of thrill I do when the winds pick up or even if it's just puffy from time to time. On days we are sailing together (1/2 the time) I've resigned to the fact that reefs may be used. If the wind is predicted to be above 15 mph, one reef goes in at the dock. If the wind is predicted to be over 20 mph and the first mate or guests are along who usually don't want to see the rail in the water, I put the second reef in at the dock. With the 2nd reef in (3rd evidently by Doyle's standard) and enough of the furled jib pulled out to balance the helm our 26 sails like a dream in 20 mph winds. Very little weather helm and she usually settles in around a 15 degree heel. The most she'll take is 32 degrees, then she rounds up. Still haven't figured out how to rig a double reefing system though. "Festivity" H26 1996
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Rick Webb
Remove the Topping Lift II
I forgot the second half. With the topping lift out of the boom there is a place for the additional reefing line. Another thought is to put a snap shackle on the line and it is available for the first, second or third reefing grommet.
I forgot the second half. With the topping lift out of the boom there is a place for the additional reefing line. Another thought is to put a snap shackle on the line and it is available for the first, second or third reefing grommet.
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Greg Stebbins
The simplest solution
Probably wrong-headed but: Why mess with a second line at all? I'd just make sure the reef line in the boom is long enough to cover either reef point. To use the second (or even third) reef, I'd just un-thread the line and run it through the other selected reef point. The only modification needed may be to add a cleat to the boom to replace the ring most have.
Probably wrong-headed but: Why mess with a second line at all? I'd just make sure the reef line in the boom is long enough to cover either reef point. To use the second (or even third) reef, I'd just un-thread the line and run it through the other selected reef point. The only modification needed may be to add a cleat to the boom to replace the ring most have.
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