Adding inverter to Hunter 30

Jan 20, 2015
14
Hunter 30 Frisco, CO
I apologize in advance for the basic ignorance on the subject.
I am a sailing newby and recently purchased a 1990 Hunter 30 which has two new 100 a/hr AGM batteries for the DC side and shore plug in for 120v AC side with numerous outlets through out the boat. The charger appears to be original and does not have an inverter.
My marina does not have shore power available.
1. What would be the best solution to power/convert DC to the AC side?
2. How involved is adding an inverter that ties into the boat's AC wiring?
 
Sep 25, 2008
7,397
Alden 50 Sarasota, Florida
One simply option is run a fused connection from batteries to inverter and just plug inverter into the existing shore power feed to the boat. Obviously you can't run a charger from it. Also, your batteries may be too small to run any significant load from the inverter.
 
Nov 26, 2012
2,315
Catalina 250 Bodega Bay CA
Maybe run motor during inverter use. Suggest 200w of solar panels w/ 20 or 30A MPPT controller. Chief
 
Dec 19, 2006
5,832
Hunter 36 Punta Gorda
Depends

Really depends what you will want to run and how much those things draw.
My inverter setup is 2500 inverter charger with 4-6volt 440 AH and I run all kinds of things like TV/microwave /coffee maker and charging labtop/2- Iphones and 2 ref/freezers.
I do have a start battery and also 2-195 watt solar and Gen but because of the solar when out cruising I only run the Gen maybe a hour at night for cooling the boat here in Florida and at the same topping off the batteries so in morning I have 12 volt to make breakfast/electric coffee.
My system maybe over the top but I never tell my wife to not use power for some thing and don't need to worry if she wants to use a hair dryer.
But my battery bank is pretty big and that will be the thing to need depending on if you want minor power for small things low draw or bigger drawing things.
Nick
 
Feb 26, 2004
23,018
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
You should do an energy budget first, to see what size house bank you need and what size inverter based on what you want to run. You really can't do anything else without that to allow you to plan.

These items may help you out:

Electrical Systems 101 http://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,5977.0.html
 
May 24, 2004
7,164
CC 30 South Florida
First of all figure out how are you going to recharge your batteries with no shore power. Running the diesel to recharge batteries at the dock is not a good option for monetary and useful battery life issues. There are generally two types of inverters that are usually used by sailors depending on their needs. One is a rather inexpensive self contained unit which provides from 1 to 3 receptacles in a range of 150 to 1500 Watts depending on their needs. These are either connected with a 12V plug up to 400W or hard wired to the battery bank. Then an extension cord(s) is used to provide power to the individual appliances. The second alternative is a charger/inverter usually upwards of 2000W which is connected to your a/c circuit through a transfer switch. An inverter is not a substitute for shore power. First of all you have to realize that you only have approximately 100a/h (50% of capacity) of usable battery capacity without unduly hurting the batteries. From this you have to subtract your regular 12V usage (cabin lights, AM/FM radio, phone chargers, water and bilge pumps, fans or any other draws). No sense in getting a large inverter unit with limited battery capacity. TVs, computers, DVD players are usually low draw items but anything with an electric motor will usually draw significantly more and would require a larger unit and limits on running time. To place everything into perspective a 40W incandescent light bulb would draw approximately 0.3A at 120V. At 12V the draw would be tenth fold at 3A plus the inverter inefficiency of around 15% you would be looking at around a draw of 3.5A from the batteries. This means you would have enough power to burn that bulb for approximately 28 1/2 hours before it would be wise to recharge. On the other hand some appliances like a 1000W microwave oven can consume when ran through an inverter around 90A but if used for only two minutes the actual draw on your batteries will be around 3A. You would need to calculate the draw on the batteries for each appliance or fixture that you intend to use so that you can figure out in which combination they can be used and for how long. I don't know if you intend to live aboard or just would have a need for occasional a/c usage. Without shore power to keep your batteries charged I would discard the option of a charger inverter and would recommend a 750W inverter hardwired to the batteries. With an extension cord you can run power to where needed. That should provide plenty of juice to run electronics and some power tools. Check installation instructions as you will need a dry ventilated location close to the batteries and will need to add a fuse for safety. Hope all this mumbo-jumbo helps but go ahead and do your homework and read up on the use inverters.
 
Feb 26, 2004
23,018
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
The West Marine Advisors have good inverter sizing/selection and battery information.
 
Jan 20, 2015
14
Hunter 30 Frisco, CO
Thanks for all the good advice. Am leaning towards solar with MPPT controller for basic charging source. Boat is in cool climate so no A/C needed and no refrigeration on board. Just on the boat weekends so looking for AC for the microwave for a few minutes or the TV/DVR for a few hours.
 
Jan 20, 2015
14
Hunter 30 Frisco, CO
I particularly liked the suggestion from Don to just run the output from the inverter to the shore power connection. Is there any significant efficiency loss with that method?
 
Sep 25, 2008
7,397
Alden 50 Sarasota, Florida
Harry
There is no loss any moreso than any other configuration. Plugging it into an existing shore power connection isn't the most elegant or the safest way but it is the most simple and I infer simple is what he wants.