A Very Versatile Table....

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Sumner

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Jan 31, 2009
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Macgregor & Endeavour 26S and 37 Utah's Canyon Country
I've tried not to post all of the mods I've done as I assume if people are interested they will look on their own, but this is one I wanted to make sure people are aware of.

For our first three trips we had been using a plastic container with the sink cover on the top of it for a table and had been happy with it, but I finally decided to make a table though and the following is what I came up with. I'm sure someone else has probably done something similar, which is usually the case when you think you come up with something new.

Here is a picture of it folded and.........



........... it is very light and a child can easily handle it. It can be stored............



......... about anywhere and it will sit either on the stairs....



............ in various positions or on the...............



..........sink and................



......... is very stable and can be moved easily with something on it.

The really nice part is you can make it in an hour or so with simple tools. I really encourage some of you to make one. I'll bet you will be happy with it.

Here is the link to the build page, but not much building.........

http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/macgregor/inside-19.html

While you are there you might look at the storage for along side the companionway on the page before that .................



................ it has also been a great addition and only took an afternoon to make.........

http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/macgregor/inside-18.html

c ya,

Sum

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May 4, 2005
4,062
Macgregor 26d Ft Lauderdale, Fl
As always, nice design, nice storage solution...

But....




What happens when that wake comes by when you have dinner sitting on it. -it can't be used when sailing...

IMHO, it needs to be anchored to the ladder a simple bungy or dowel on each leg would fix it. and maybe add a 1/4 " lip all around so plates don't slide off.

I try to think what I need when I'm sailing, and can't stop for lunch, like on a 6 hr transit to next good anchorage. often times its more comfortable sailing than stopping and bobbing around in a 3' chop.
 

Sumner

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Jan 31, 2009
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Macgregor & Endeavour 26S and 37 Utah's Canyon Country
As always, nice design, nice storage solution...

But....




What happens when that wake comes by when you have dinner sitting on it. -it can't be used when sailing...

IMHO, it needs to be anchored to the ladder a simple bungy or dowel on each leg would fix it. and maybe add a 1/4 " lip all around so plates don't slide off.

I try to think what I need when I'm sailing, and can't stop for lunch, like on a 6 hr transit to next good anchorage. often times its more comfortable sailing than stopping and bobbing around in a 3' chop.
Bill I realize it looks flimsy, but we were really surprised how stable it was, but if you felt the need for more then just add it. The point I really want to make is that because the table isn't anchored down it works just as easily off the sink as it does off the ladder, at least in our "S". Also it is easy to slide it back and forward or side to side as needed.

We used it for the entire time we were on Lake Powell for 18 days without one problem both sailing and anchored. Granted Lake Powell isn't the ocean in a storm, but those hoseboats make some pretty respectable waves and they were never a problem with the tabel working. Many on here only lake sail and I know it works there.

I wanted to seal the surface good for cleaning up spills and put 5 coats on it and sanded between the last 3. I worried that it would be too slick also and was prepared to add a lip, but found that our plates and cups for some reason don't slide on it. Don't ask me why, might be the urethane we used or that it was still fresh, but we didn't have any sliding problem. If it occures in the future I'll add a lip, but see no reason to now.

Now I wish I could say the same for our stove. A couple of the pots and pans we use with it have to be watched very carefully so that they don't slide when a boat "wakes" us and we wouldn't use them and the stove underway.

Thanks for taking a look and commenting,

Sum

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Apr 25, 2005
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Macgregor Venture 25 My Backyard
R.oril!!!


I hate to ask, ause I am in Northern al (Bay Area), but where is Lancaster??

Do you ever make it up to the SF Bay? That is where we usually sail. It would be nice to meet a new Mac sailer on the Bay. Have you eve considered pulling her up here to splash in a real challenge of a waterway?

Gregg

I like it!. What's for dinner?
 
Oct 24, 2008
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Macgregor 25 (1984) Wildomar, So. Cal.
Gregg-
Lancaster is kinda in the middle of nowhere (j/k), between Los Angeles and Bakersfield. Definitely inland - and nowhere near the Bay Area.
 
May 4, 2005
4,062
Macgregor 26d Ft Lauderdale, Fl
Now I wish I could say the same for our stove. A couple of the pots and pans we use with it have to be watched very carefully so that they don't slide when a boat "wakes" us and we wouldn't use them and the stove underway.
I wonder if you could fabricate some pot holders, most stoves have a rail w/ a sliding bar.

http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|406|694|319790&id=60039


http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|406|694|319792&id=143156

http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|406|694|330373&id=1233176



on the table... just saying it might be nice to be able to secure it. in case its rougher than you're use to seeing. w/a hole in the end of each arm you could lash it to the steps.

or not... ;D
 

Sumner

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Jan 31, 2009
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Macgregor & Endeavour 26S and 37 Utah's Canyon Country
I wonder if you could fabricate some pot holders, most stoves have a rail w/ a sliding bar.

http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|406|694|319790&id=60039


http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|406|694|319792&id=143156

http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|406|694|330373&id=1233176



on the table... just saying it might be nice to be able to secure it. in case its rougher than you're use to seeing. w/a hole in the end of each arm you could lash it to the steps.

or not... ;D
Bill thanks for the links. I'm not quite sure I fully understand how those pot holders work, but that is something I would like to do something about. There is only one pan that we don't use much that really slides now on the stove and it is no fun thinking you might get it in your lap. I'll look at those some more and come up with something.

The table though is fine and if it got any rougher than what we experienced in the 40-50 mph winds on Powell we probably won't be eating anyway :).

c ya,

Sum

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Dan D

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Apr 6, 2007
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Hunter 28 Leech Lake - Minnesota
Another table arrangement

I made our table from 1/2 inch Starboard- 2 pins hold it in place on the sink side and we use the leg from the original table toward the back. It store on top of the sink and becomes a useful place for setting all sorts of things.

We use a piece of tool drawer rubber matt to keep things from sliding- its a must because the Starboard is so slippery to start with. I have since added a small riser at the sink in order to get my knees under it more comfortably.

The "coffee table" works fine too but its just for the stove which we set up the night before. That one is small enough to lay flat under the rear berth matresses
 

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JMonda

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Aug 1, 2009
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Thanks Sumner,
I downloaded your plans and intend to make one similar to yours. I will make a cool addition to my boat.

Do you have a plan for over coming my wife's fear of sailing?

:) Thanks again, Jerry
 
Apr 30, 2006
610
Macgregor 26s Kemah, TX
To overcome your wife's fear of sailing, only take her out at first when the wind is light. Most people's fears are based on the boat's heeling over in a breeze. Let her get used to that gradually.
On the other thread, you asked about flying a spinnaker. One of the scariest maneuvers is a spinnaker broach. It happens usually when you're reaching with the spinnaker in a breeze. It starts when you get a puff and don't ease the sheet and bear off quickly enough. Then the boat heels way over, the rudder loses its bite, and the boat rounds up, with all sails luffing madly. You do NOT want her to experience that until she has a few miles under her belt. Otherwise, you'll be singlehanding a lot.
 
May 4, 2005
4,062
Macgregor 26d Ft Lauderdale, Fl
One of the scariest maneuvers is a spinnaker broach.
Also known as the Death Roll....
BTDT, very frightening! boom is in the water too, sometimes that breaks...

& then theres 'Shrimping'... not as scarry, but major pain. spinaker goes in the water, on take down... takes 3 men and a boy to pull it out. LOL!

I liked Sum's idea, let your wife hold the tiller... she's in control, and can dump air by rounding up.

-1st time, no sails! just motor around, have lunch, motor back...
2nd time, main only.

GL!
 
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