A PO Story

Jan 1, 2006
7,982
Slickcraft 26 Sailfish
On my new to me boat, which I took possession of three weeks ago I noted that the battery charger wasn't working. The battery charger is on the AC/Shore Power panel and the little green light would light up dutifully. But the battery chargers LED's didn't light, and climbing in the battery space the multi tester confirmed that the batteries were at 11.98 or so. So it wasn't working. This took two weeks worth of boat time (Time when you can actually visit the boat with the tools and materials needed) to establish. First I had to learn how to access the battery area and spend a good deal of time looking at wires and where they led. Not to mention reading MS's articles and associated posts.
So I bought a new battery charger, on sale, which was a 20 amp. The existing was 12 amps. I returned the 20 amp after realizing that it would probably exceed the existing wiring and got the modern version of the 12 amp. MS, you may want to avert your eyes at this point. But I suspect you already know the story.
So over a few days, but only an hour or so a day after work, I installed the new charger. I had to put a outlet in the "Junction box" where the formerly hard wired charger received it's AC input. The new charger has a plug which most of the ones I saw online did. Except for the one MS demonstrates on his website. But that unit is more complicated than I need and if you include wiring a lot more expensive.
That done I wired the thing up, plugged in the shore power, threw the double pole switch and the charger breaker - and nothing. A big fat nothing. I'm sure many have figured this out by now. But I'm despondent because this means a problem with the wiring in a much less accessible part of the boat than even the barely accessible battery area.
So, I go to the panel and check with the multi tester and find there is, in fact 120 volts across the switch or breaker. That wire is energized and then it disappears into the abyss. Here it is. Maybe someone, maybe the PO, certainly some PO didn't wire the charger on the charger circuit. Why? No one knows. So I flipped all the switches that weren't known to me to be useful, the water heater (Which the boat doesn't have), the air-conditioning (Which the boat doesn't have), and the ubiquitous "Access ." I go look at the charger and LED's are happily blinking and doing what ever they do.
The thing is, I bought this boat from a guy I know, who works at a local boatyard. I've been on the boat many times. I told him the battery charger wasn't working to see if maybe I was missing something - I wasn't asking him to solve the problem. He just said it was working and had a blank look. I don't thing he even remembered that it was wired on a different circuit. So I spent five or so boat hours on this and if I had the presence of mind to flip those other switches at the onset, I would have missed laying backwards over the engine with my head in a compartment with little ventilation, and at least five pounds worth of sweat, with my cheek occasionally laying on one of the positive battery terminals, and trying to learn how to break into the compartment where the wiring ran from the charger, and quite a bit of other fun.
Thanks PO. I tell you that PO guy is no good.
So, where do those other wires go? How do they terminate. Yikes.
 
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capta

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Jun 4, 2009
5,072
Pearson 530 Admiralty Bay, Bequia SVG
I don't call it electrickery on a boat for nothin!
 

Ted

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Jan 26, 2005
1,278
C&C 110 Bay Shore, Long Island, NY
PO's are PITA. Didn't the surveyor pick up on these issues? Congratulations on your new boat. What did you get?
 

DougM

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Jul 24, 2005
2,242
Beneteau 323 Manistee, MI
Isn't that part of the fun of owning a new to you boat? I've had a couple of those and the wiring done by Mr. PO is sometimes scary.
Now I have one that I bought new 12 years ago and I have been chasing wiring that needed to be replaced due to a storm related dismasting, and found some dealer installed circuits that weren't where they should have been, like two mystery wires attached to a breaker labelled "spare". To make things more interesting, the wire labels in some cases have either fallen off or have become unreadable over time.
Since I'm out of circuit breakers anyway, I decided to add a sub panel with additional breakers, and sort the mess out.
Funny how projects grow exponentially.
Thankfully I'm retired....and its still not the besr sailing weather.
 
Jan 11, 2014
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Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
If only the PO had remembered the golden rule of boat repair and maintenance:

Do not do unto the next owner what the prior owner did unto you.
 
Jan 1, 2006
7,982
Slickcraft 26 Sailfish
PO's are PITA. Didn't the surveyor pick up on these issues? Congratulations on your new boat. What did you get?
No surveyor. This is a power boat which I've been on a fair amount. The only real issue is the engine. If that goes then I'm screwed. But I'm not in that deep. It's a Slickcraft - builder of the S2's. For right now a power boat fits my needs better than a sailboat. I'm sailing OPB's on a lot of weekends and usually have several invitations for Wednesday PM's. Anyway, I'll only have this boat for a year or two. I just wanted a way to escape Greenport on weekends when it's crowded and noisy.
 
Dec 29, 2008
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Treworgy 65' LOA Custom Steel Pilothouse Staysail Ketch St. Croix, Virgin Islands
if I had the presence of mind to flip those other switches at the onset,
I sure wouldn't beat myself up for that. Why would it seem rational to try the A/C breaker to turn on the battery charger. Then again, who in their right mind would wire the battery charger to a breaker other than the one labeled "Battery Charger"?

If I had to wire it to something other than the "BC" breaker (wire too short??), I'd at least put a label over the one I used...

So, inquiring minds want to know: which breaker was it on?
 
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Jan 1, 2006
7,982
Slickcraft 26 Sailfish
So, inquiring minds want to know: which breaker was it on?
It was the air conditioning which the boat isn't equipped with.
I found the boat this am with the charger showing that glorious green LCD or LED. One day this week I'll crawl back into the compartment and measure the voltage across the terminals of the battery. But seriously, it was at least five pounds of sweat for this easy job. For those of you who do this professionally, you should raise your prices.