A new to me Resource

jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
23,089
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
I just discovered a new to me iOS app for my iPhone/iPad. It is produced by the Hakai Institute Hakai Institute

They offer a free app “Ocean Connect” that I found intuitive to use and supportive for those cruising the Salish Sea.

Take a look and let me know your thoughts.
 
May 7, 2012
1,537
Hunter e33 Maple Bay, BC
Thanks John. Good sourcing.
Wouldn't it be wonderful to have all that information available in one app.
After a few onboard system failures, we hope that 3rd time's a charm and we make our way up to the Broughtons and maybe beyond. Ocean Current would be a very useful tool particularly in amongst the many island of the archipelago. However, I just had a look at Dodd Narrow. The app seems to give accurate data when the "Current Icon" is clicked. The current direction and speed (7.7 kts to -4.5 kts) over time seem to be accurate. However, when I position the cursor in the middle of the Narrows (or even right over top the Current Icon) it shows a change in current speed of 0 to 0.4 kts. Maybe operator error but I will definitely be giving it a look see as I travel North.
Thanks again.
 
Apr 25, 2024
499
Fuji 32 Bellingham
This looks really promising. Over the past couple of weeks I have been experimenting around with the various models in Windy.app, finding HRRR being the most useful around here, but also finding the comparision view helpful (seeing how closely the various models agree/disagree). In general, most models lack good high-resolution modeling around various land and submarine masses, as you know.

So, while they might show good trend information, that information could be WAY off for a given trip, due to local effects. I found HRRR did better than most models. Second to the HRRR model is the HRDPS model, which OceanConnect uses for wind. I can't really say that HRRR is better. It is slightly higher resolution, but the two models are so frequently in such disagreement that the difference is not subtle. In the very limited real-world testing I've done, HRRR has been more spot on, in particular at identifying highly localized effects.

I'm betting that Hakai chose HRDPS over HRRR for reasons that exceed my two weeks of occasional spot testing. So, I will defer to that.

Where OC really seems to shine is in modeling currents - like Washburn's but better. Just poking around the chart, looking at what tides are doing and comparing that with my experience of what effect that has on currents, it looks to be spot on. One of my "benchmark" cases for evaluating a current prediction is to look at Cattle Point (south end of San Juan Channel) with a strong northbound current. What I expect an accurate model to do is show the good back-channel along the west side of Griffin Bay - pretty much the only way to go south when you have to go against that northbound current.

OC models that just about perfectly. It misses some other points. For example, if you have a strong current flowing between Waldron Island and Orcas, there are some strong back currents west of Waldron that the model completely ignores. But, it is still much better than most modeling, by far. You still need to apply some local knowledge and general seamanship, but I can see this replacing the Washburn tables as our go-to for currents.

Technical note: This isn't an IOS app, per se. It is just what is called a "responsive PWA" which is just a way of saying that it is a web app that scales well to a variety of devices, including phones (that's the "responsive" part). And, it can be "installed" to sort of appear like a standalone application (that's the "PWA" part). In other words, when you pull up oceanconnect.ca on your desktop computer's browser, you are using the same app as when you use it on your phone - even if it looks different and "feels" like a standalone application. Under the hood, it just uses your phone's browser.

All this to say that, while it looks like you can install this from Apple's App Store or Google Play, I wouldn't recommend it. The reasons are kind of in-the-weeds for this discussion. The short version is that there is some security risk to installing any app from an app store and, in this case, there is no benefit. Suffice it to say that you can get the exact same experience by simply going to oceanconnect.ca in Chrome on your phone, and going to the dots menu and selecting "Add to Desktop" to "install" it. This is safer than installing from one of the app stores.

(I don't want to overstate the relatively low risk of installing from an app store and don't want to hijack the conversation to be about that. Just pointing out that there is no benefit to doing so, in this case.)
 

jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
23,089
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
There is some info on the website that discusses how the system came to exist. It sounds like the app is a work in progress. It is capturing the Model data from UBC Research and presenting it through the app.

They are working to expand the area of coverage.