A little more finished looking now.

[c_witch]

Hiee,

Just thought I'd post some photo's of the work I did over the weekend. I added trimming to the galley counter to keep things there lol as well as to the hull and deck joint seam. The only big thing left to do inside is to make the battery enclosure/step/stove storage. I am getting a bit tired of that 2+ foot step into the cabin.

c_witch

 

[Merlin Clark]

Looking good Brina!

 

[Manureva]

nice work

 

[Sumner]

Very nice, looks like a ....

.... lot of room in that boat considering its length. Have fun,

Sum

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[Douglast]

yea...looks like alot of room for a 21 ft....its sure looking nice with the work you are doing...!!!!!!

 

[Joe11688]

Excellent work Brina!

 

[rgranger]

The hooks for the coffee mugs is a nice touch. Did you lower the V-birth or was it already that low? I ask because when I redid the interior of my Mac22, I considered lowering the V-birth. Mine is too high and you can't really relax in the v-birth at all because you are too close to the deck ceiling.

 

[c_witch]

Hiee,

Thanx Merlin and Mesange. Thank you Sum. She is actually just a tad under 22 feet and has an 8 foot beam so she is very roomy.
Thanx Douglast and Trinkka. It has been alot of work, not something I think I would want to do again.
Rgranger it was the only place I could find for the coffee cups lol. I didn't lower any of the berths, but I did actually raise the sole by several inches to accomodate the bilge pump and float switch. The down side to that of course was less head room. I have found that by using a simple household bucket inverted and cushion that it is comfortable enough to sit on that and do the meal preps and dishes etc. The reason I was drawn to this boat is because the cabin starts to sweep up just behind the anchor locker and it runs out almost to the gunwhales. The down side to that being that to walk forward means climbing onto the cabin roof/deck to do so. The design is very,very similar to the mid 80's sonics built at a yard in Quebec.

Here's another profile showing what I mean.

c_witch

 

[rgranger]

... The reason I was drawn to this boat is because the cabin ... runs out almost to the gunwhales.

c_witch

I think (and someone will correct me if I'm wrong) that design feature is called a raised deck cabin. And yes! that design does give you a beastly amount of room inside... AND it makes the boat much stronger. She is a looker. Nice job.

The Rhodes 22 that I'm restoring right now has a raised deck cabin and an 8' beam. It is shocking how much larger the interior is compared to my Mac 22. Same length boat but the Rhodes is a LOT MORE boat at 22'. I'm also guessing the Rhodes will be slower under sail with the larger beam but she will be much nicer at anchor :dance:

 

[Merlin Clark]

I think (and someone will correct me if I'm wrong) that design feature is called a raised deck cabin. And yes! that design does give you a beastly amount of room inside... AND it makes the boat much stronger. She is a looker. Nice job.

The Rhodes 22 that I'm restoring right now has a raised deck cabin and an 8' beam. It is shocking how much larger the interior is compared to my Mac 22. Same length boat but the Rhodes is a LOT MORE boat at 22'. I'm also guessing the Rhodes will be slower under sail with the larger beam but she will be much nicer at anchor :dance:

Phillip Rhodes knew what he was doing. Don't be surprised if she is faster than your Mac. The broader beam could help her "stay on her feet" (less heeling= sails don't spill as much).

 

[Merlin Clark]

I'm loving that galley and jealous of all the wood work Brina!
Beats the faded or poorly painted wood grain formica I've got!

 

[rgranger]

Phillip Rhodes knew what he was doing. Don't be surprised if she is faster than your Mac. The broader beam could help her "stay on her feet" (less heeling= sails don't spill as much).

I've sailed a Rhodes 22 once before. I chartered Stan's (the owner of General Boats). She did "stay on her feet" in a strong wind and the flared hull was nice as we punched through the chop. On the second day we had light air. What I remember about her is that she did not do as well in light air. We spent a long slow day going from Columbus to Edenton in 5-7mph winds. It took us the entire day and we arrived at dusk. I was tempted to fire up the iron genny buy my wife insisted that we make it under sail. And she is a very comfortable boat.

My Mac22 will average 3-4mph in a 5-7mph wind if it is steady.

 

[Merlin Clark]

Gotcha. I respect your experience over my guesswork!
SA/Disp and Bal/Disp is better in the Mac too!
http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=193
http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=188

 

[c_witch]

I'm loving that galley and jealous of all the wood work Brina!
Beats the faded or poorly painted wood grain formica I've got!

Thanx Merlin, but remember that the interior was pretty much completely gutted so all of this is somewhat new and this is the first season she's been in the water since.

On another note what is considered to be good pointing?? It seems I can always tack her at least 45 degree's to the wind before loosing to much power. Down wind is not the greatest as I can only let the boom out 45 / 50 degs before the main sail hits the lower shroud. Maybe a boom vang to tighten the sail would allow a little more?

c_witch

 

[rgranger]

Down wind is not the greatest

hA Ha... sounds like a spinnaker is on the Christmas list...

 

[Merlin Clark]

Brina,
You should be able to point higher than 45. Is your headsail worn out?
Is it a working jib (+/-100%) or a genoa (more lift)? Halyard tight? How close can you sheet it in? Where are your chain plates? Do you have a traveler on the mainsheet? A lot of smaller boats were set up with "Crosby" rigs (in drawing below) and these aren't very good for upwind work. Keel down all the way?
Can you take some pics the next time out? Could be that everything just needs tightened up.
As for downwind, haul up the swing keel. Get rid of the drag when you don't need it.

 

[c_witch]

Brina,
You should be able to point higher than 45. Is your headsail worn out?
Is it a working jib (+/-100%) or a genoa (more lift)? Halyard tight? How close can you sheet it in? Where are your chain plates? Do you have a traveler on the mainsheet? A lot of smaller boats were set up with "Crosby" rigs (in drawing below) and these aren't very good for upwind work. Keel down all the way?
Can you take some pics the next time out? Could be that everything just needs tightened up.
As for downwind, haul up the swing keel. Get rid of the drag when you don't need it.

Hiee Merlin,

Well that just popped my bubble :cry: as I can manage fairly well under main alone and maintain a reasonable speed 45 degs off the wind (into it). From everything I have read I thought that was doing ok unless I misunderstood what I was reading.

c_witch

 

[Fly_H23]

Looks great!!! You've done a great job !

 

[rgranger]

Yeah, 45 is okay on a cruiser. You can do better if you work at it but...ever notice the fins on the windex are at 45? On my boat I can point higher in stronger wind. I think it that "apparent wind" thing.

In lighter air you can point higher if you move your sheets in but you also lose speed so there is a point of diminishing returns. If your boat is moving the direction you want it to and at a decent speed, I'd just crack a cold one and enjoy

She is a really comfortable looking pocket cruiser. Well done.

 

[Merlin Clark]

Hiee Merlin,

Well that just popped my bubble :cry: as I can manage fairly well under main alone and maintain a reasonable speed 45 degs off the wind (into it). From everything I have read I thought that was doing ok unless I misunderstood what I was reading.

c_witch

45 under the main is fine Brina! I don't know that I can do that well.
Follow rgranger's advice and enjoy the ride!