A/C freshwater pump prime problem

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Jim Wharton

I'm having problems getting my freshwater pump to stay primed after sailing. When I'm at the dock the pump seems to stay primed, but if I take it out for a sail almost every time I have problems getting the pump to prime. In the install manual it did note this could be a problem. However, being an engineer I got to figure out why and fix it.. We installed a 12K reverse cycle unit in a 1991 Hunter 30 (under front Vberth). The boat had a 1.5in seacock at the aft end of the boat (head discharge not being used) which is about 2ft aft and to port 1.5ft the prop shaft log (as close to bottom of the boat as you can get). We reduced the output to the seacock from 1.5in to .75in and installed a strainer. From the strainer we ran a short hose red striped to the pump provide in the kit. All the equipment to this point is below the water line. From the pump output we ran hose to the A/C unit under front Vberth approx. 25ft. Then setup the water discharge approx. 7in above the water line. Once the pump is primed at dock the unit can be turned off and on and works fine (even leaving the boat idle for a week (use boat on weekends). However, every time we take the boat out, we have to turn the unit on and off several times to get the pump to prime. Looking at the hoses at the pump there is air in the line (not a lot). I'm trying to determine if the line is getting a suction (back flow) on the line, or air is being brought in due to the prop, or what? I'm open to any ideas you guys might have. Thanks Jim jim.wharton@fnc.fujitsu.com
 
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Clyde Lichtenwalner

Suction

My guess is that the long line to the AC unit is just below the waterline. The boat's motion (wavew action, heeling, and forward) reduces the static pressure in the line allowing the system to drain slightly and introduces air to the pump from the water discharge. There is only only one easy solution. Close the seacock before you go leave the dock. This is not a bad idea anyway. It eliminates one place where you can take on water due to leaky hose fittings or failed AC components. It is always good practice to have unused seacocks closed.
 
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Bryce Grefe

pump prime

I had a similiar problem with my fridge pump. Installed a back flow preventer between the strainer and the sea cock. haven't had any problems since then. But it is always a good idea to close the seacock. Bryce S/V Spellbinder
 
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Bill Bell

Close Thru Hull

I have the same problem with my A/C if I don't close the Thru Hull. I only have 4 ft of hose between the thru hull and the pump, but I lose prime when sailing with the thru hull open. Bill
 
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Bill Ihlenfeldt

AC prime

I had a similar problem on my 410. You need to make sure that the intake is below the waterline and that everything flows "uphill" from there to the pump. The dealer had installed mine and there was a short section where the water line dipped a bit (It was hard to find). Once I eliminated that dip, the problem was solved. I never close the seacock and have sailed in all kinds of weather at many angles of heel. Your owners manual emphasizes this and even shows some diagrams (Marine Air).
 
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