A 1978 ODay 22 qithout a hatch?

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22ODayGirl

Hey all, new member here, new ODay owner, too. I bought her used last week, and am excited about sailing. I sailed a little bit in the past and this is all new-again to me. The terminology is mind blowing, and I'm feeling like I need some index cards to study up.

Anyhow, here's my question....I was told the boat is a 1978 22' ODay. The sails have a 22 in a circle, which I believe is consistent with that model.

However, when I look on line at other ODay 22s from that era, they all have forward hatches and mine does not.

Was that an option at that time? Hatch vs. no hatch, in other words? Or is it more likely that the boat is not from 1978? I've noticed that the ones built in 1982 have no forward hatch.

I'm really only curious about this. I thought I really wanted that forward hatch, but now I see comments from folks having trouble with the jib moving cleanly in a tack because of the hatch, so maybe it's my good fortune, after all.

Any comments?
 
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JoshGray

My 22

has a forward hatch that looks like it was installed after leaving the factory. There is not nice combing, the hole is raw and the wood hatch supports are definitely homemade. I bet that someone on here knows, possibly Joe? Failing that, call Rudy at D&R Marine. Might as well get used to that response, you'll become real familiar with him! Regarding the fouling of the jib on tacks, I've had that problem with my big 155 gennie. If the hatch is open at all the sail will generally get hung up for a moment.

Good luck with your boat
 
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Joe

22 O'Day without a hatch

I'm not really what you would call an authority on O'Day 22s or even the 222s, but I've never heard of an O'Day in this model line that was built without a forward hatch. If my boat came without a hatch I would definitely get one and install it myself. These boats can get real hot in the summertime at anchor in your favorite cove, and it would behoove anyone to keep the hatches open to be cool and comfortable while sleeping in the cabin at night. I generally rig two Polytarps over my hatches when I'm at anchor, and that can really make a big difference in comfort levels in the cabin on the hottest days. If your boat doesn't have a hatch O'Day Girl, you should make a point of getting one and having it installed. You won't be sorry, believe me.
Joe
 
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Sunbird

Hatch was standard in 1978

The forward hatch was standard on hte 1978 model 22, I'm not real sure when it became standard...but it was definitely standard for 1978. The earlier 22 models, (1972-?) had an optional forward hatch as did the O'Day 20, these hatches are a molded fiberglass cover and a fiberglass coaming surrounding the opening which is screwed (bolted?)on to the forward end of the cabin top. These hatches were basicaly in the same location as the later standard hatches, but were, as I say, surface mounted and did stick up. The later boats with the standard hatch have a flush-mounted hatch, the opening was molded into the cabin top and when closed, the hatch is flush to the deck and I guess that if the hatch was not open it would look like part of the cabin top. I would guess that 1977 was the first year that the 22 had a standard forward hatch, since I recall that the deck molding must have been re-tooled for that year to also include a vented locker in the cockpit for the gas tank.

I have a picture of the flush hatch, and will post a pic of the older hatch as well.
 
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Sunbird

Older Hatch

Here is the pic of the older, optional hatch.
Also, I meant to mention in my prior post about how to fnd the model year of the 22. For the boats built after November 1, 1972 (1973 and newer models), there is a Hull I.D. Number on the transom "XDYJccccM78A" where XDY = O'Day, J = 22, cccc = Class Number (how many 22s had been built), M78 = 1978 Model Year (76 would be 1976, etc), A = month of the model year that boat was built, A = Aug, B = Sept (Model years ran Aug - Jul, and M78A = August 1977 as a 1978 model.)
 
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Sunbird

Older Hatch

Here is the pic of the older, optional hatch.
Also, I meant to mention in my prior post about how to fnd the model year of the 22. For the boats built after November 1, 1972 (1973 and newer models), there is a Hull I.D. Number on the transom "XDYJccccM78A" where XDY = O'Day, J = 22, cccc = Class Number (how many 22s had been built), M78 = 1978 Model Year (76 would be 1976, etc), A = month of the model year that boat was built, A = Aug, B = Sept (Model years ran Aug - Jul, and M78A = August 1977 as a 1978 model.)
 
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22ODayGirl

No hatch

I will take a look at the transom tag and see what it says. I did notice it but didn't know it was going to hold so much info, so I didn't write it down. The boat is currently on a mooring so I can't just walk into the back yard and take a peek. There are two vents on the boat, one forward near the bow and one towards the stern, but they don't seem to let much air go through. Also seems that the boat was "customized" and the sink was removed. No sign of the table, either. I am going to do some "un-customizing" on it at the end of the season as I want those things...

Any safty concerns about installing the hatch post market?
 
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TimCup

22ODAYGIRL- you've gotten all correct info

IF your Oday is a 78 or newer, it will have the hatch molded in to the most forward edge of cabin top. If it is an older model, the hatch is on the flat area forward of the mast. I wasn't aware that the hatch was optional on the older models, as I've never seen one without it!

Keep in mind that while you're correct about having an Oday sail, it doesn't mean you have an Oday sailboat! I have a 1979 22- the best feature is the head behind a closeable door. If your sink and table have been changed, there's no telling what else is 'custom'. Post some pics when you get a chance and the wizards here will tell you all you need to know!

As far as the hatch getting in the way, I really haven't had a problem, and my headsail is a 150 genoa. Of course, I keep the hatch right against the mast when it's open. The inventor of the bungee cord is a god...

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22ODayGirl

If only I was on the boat now....

If only I was on the boat right now, it's a great day for it and I could read the transom plate and figure out what I've got. I got such a smokin hot deal on it that I don't really care what year it is. It's been well cared for and came with a trailer and a 9.9hp long shaft Evinrude. If I told you what I paid for it, you'd be sick....with envy! :)

The boat does have a door that closes to the v berth where the head is located.

I'm going down this weekend to putter and maybe sail (gulp!)....I will have info and pics at that point.

I appreciate everyone's input.

After all the images I've looked at on line of sister ships (a lofty term for a 22' sailboat, but you know what I mean) she is the only one I've seen with the vents fore and aft...
 
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Joe

Free boats

It's not unusual for someone to give away their boat today. A guy in my neighborhood just received a free powerboat with a working outboard and the trailer. The guy who owned it, wanted to buy another boat and his wife gave him an ultimatum of either get rid of one of your boats, or don't get another one. So he gave one away. One of my friends wanted to give me his O'Day 25 a few years ago, and I told him that I couldn't take it. So he asked me to find someone who wanted it and he'd give it to him free of charge. The boat was on a mooring in Red Brook Harbor up on the Cape and I found a guy who wanted it. I told him that I would help him deliver it to the club on the Taunton River in Dighton Ma., and we did. My friend gave him this 1975 O'Day 25 keel centerboard sloop with everything that it had on it, or went with it. Are you ready for this? It had an Autohelm ST 1000+ autopilot, stereo with two speakers, new CDI Roller Furler, new stern pulpit, a fiberglass dinghy, and a new braid pendant line with a pick-up stick. The boat was fully found, and everything that was in the cabin, went with the boat including rain gear and a copy of "This Old Boat" by Don Casey. It also had an old Johnson Sailmaster 9.9 that had some issues, but ran. This boat sailed like a dream all the way from the Cape. It's still being used by a new owner who loves this boat. He bought a new engine for it and sails it every chance that he gets. Here it is.
 
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22ODayGirl

Dang!

See? Timing is everything!!!

Well, on the bright side I guess that means that my next upgrade might cost me less than this one did!

I think these days the boats that are given away have huge engines in them and even larger gas tanks...
 
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Joe

Dang reply

"I think these days the boats that are given away have huge engines in them and even larger gas tanks..."

I'd like to agree with you on that, but in spite of the fact that I'm not seeing as many powerboats on the water this year as in previous years, I did see a large cigarette boat speed by me doing over 100 mph one night on Mount Hope Bay. He went back and forth at least three times the whole length of the bay from the Mount Hope Bridge in Bristol RI. My point is; there will always be people who can afford to fill their tanks with gasoline at any cost. As long as I have wind, I'm going to take advantage of it because I'm not one of these fortunate people who has money to burn. Thank God for sailboats!
Joe
 
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David S

FREE BOATS

Hi there 220DayGirl,
I traveled from Asheville to Punta Gorda FLA to get a free 79 O'day 22 after hurricane Charlie tore off the forward hatch, bent the safty line stanchns, broke the center board off and SUNK it. I fixed it all back, even with a home made hatch out of cherry wood, got a lot of nice comments on the hatch. brag brag!!!! In 06/2007 I and my wife trailered it to Fla Keys for 3 weeks, but sadly she past away in Nov. In Feb 2008 I trailered to Punta Gorda and sailed on Charolette Harbor for 2 months, great place to sail.
 
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David S

TO THE SAILOR GIRL

HI Lady Sailor,
Since my previous post you see I am a widower, sooo, I am looking for a lady sailor to enjoy sailing with. I am 71 (ok guys laugh, the girls may too) but I am in good health. I under stand we shouldn't put our email in these post and I don't know how to put in a link for my email. Anybody care to give me instructions how to do that?

David S Happy Sailing All
 
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Joe

Ahoy there, David S!

David,
All you have to do is click on to the name in the left hand column on this page, and the "Owner's Profile" along with the email address will come up.

I don't laugh David. My First Mate is a Pit bull/Greyhound named "Penelope Pitbull." Now,-- that's something to laugh about!
Joe
 
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