A 15-min job ;D

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Dec 1, 1999
2,391
Hunter 28.5 Chesapeake Bay
So, I go to my boat yesterday in order to get a number of chores done in preparation for launch next week. After stowing a lot of gear and sails that have been living in my basement over the winter, I turned my attention to the engine. I have a check list of tasks to perform to get the engine ready and one is to take off the raw water pump, open it up and inspect and/or replace the impeller, as needed. I always replace the gasket when opening the pump. The 6 screws holding the cover of the pump came off easily and, having had to replace one or two lost over the years, I'm now very careful to place all of them in a plastic cup. The cover of the pump was stuck to the pump housing and so I carefully slid the blade of my knife between the cover and the housing to gently pry it up and off the old gasket. Now the fun part begins. The cover comes off and does a one and a half gainer into what I thought was the absorbent towel I always keep under the engine. I reach around under the engine, but cannot find the pump cover. I get a flashlight and look around all the way up to the packing gland, and then around the sides of the motor mounts. No cover. It's tough to lose something in plain sight. This is not like dropping something overboard. And then I see this tiny little space where the aft end of the cabin sole ends at the forward edge of the engine compartment. Now on my boat,a Hunter 28.5, this space is about 1/1000th of a millimeter wider than the thickness of the pump cover. The cover somehow found its way down below the sole through that damn little crack. I really don't think I could have pushed it down there if I wanted to do so on purpose! What to do? Yep, I begin unscrewing the million or so screws that hold the sole down. Now I doubt that any of these screws have been moved since the boat was born some 22 years ago. One would not budge and so I had to go get my drill (that I luckily brought with me) and drill it out. A few others took all my strength with a ratchet wrench and screw bit to remove. The sole also runs under some cabinetry. Boy, was I enjoying this... It took about 4 hours to get the sole out, relcaim the pump cover, and put the boat back together. This should have been a 15-min job. I put some duct tape over that offending crack. This is NEVER gonna happen again. If you have such a space on your boats, I advise you to do the same. We all keep learning, even when we don't want to. _________________
 
Mar 29, 2007
49
Hunter 27_75-84 Charlotte, NC
Sigh

Sorry to hear that - very frustrating indeed. Sounds like something that would/does happen to me...
 
Jun 1, 2005
772
Pearson 303 Robinhood, ME
I feel...

your pain. That has my name written all over it. However... I would have destroyed a few more things in the process. Launch next week!... (very nice) I probably have another month and a half. (sigh) Nicly done!
 
Aug 9, 2005
772
Hunter 28.5 Palm Coast, FL
Wow!! Keep us all up to date on you're adventures

I thought that I was the only one weird things happened to. About three weeks ago at 8:45 in the morning my wife and I heard this crash and to our amazement a full sized deer was in our home. We chased it around for about five minutes as it slipped and slid across our wood floors, ignoring any of the doors we had opened for it to escape. We we’re in total shock and the deer was scared to death and by now it was in our master bedroom with its hooves caught in the wooden blinds. We freed it and it finally leaped out our back door and into our lanai ripping the screen and exiting. Incidentally, I also own a 1988 H28.5...am I doomed?
 
Feb 10, 2004
4,234
Hunter 40.5 Warwick, RI
Warren, you have made my morning

I guess this sort of thing always happens. I do feel badly for you. Just remember- 1. The is no such thing as a 15 minute job. 2. Everything takes four times longer and is more costly than expected. 3. No job is so simple that it can't be screwed up.
 
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Tony

What i admire about sailors

Warren YOu exemplify one one the best traits of sailors the ability to laugh at yourself and your own misadventures and admit them to others IF ONLY PRESIDENTS....................... t
 
Dec 3, 2003
2,101
Hunter Legend 37 Portsmouth, RI
It Would Have Been Cheaper...

...(timewise) to buy a new backing plate for the pump. Certainly, less aggravation! But, it won't happen again - even if you try. It's those "minor jobs" that always kill me, too! Now, you can forget about it, and save your N-R-G for the next "minor" job that you undertake. ;) Just like the time I removed my raw water backing plate and stripped 2 phillips heads because they are brass. Now, they use small "nutted" bolts to hold it in place. Something that will take a small socket and "save" the head from stripping.
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
I dropped a screw into the bilge yesterday, got out a flashlight and found three

I don't remember dropping the other two. I think there is a space warp that catches things in mid-fall and hides them in arcane places.
 
May 11, 2005
3,431
Seidelman S37 Slidell, La.
Happens to us all

These things happen to us all every once in a while. This is like when I was a kid, and always driving some old beater. If it was going to break down, it would be at the exact distance farthest from any kind of help. It is just another example of Mr. Murphy's law. At least you had the gumption to get it out, get the sole back down, and finish the job. Not to mention have a good attitude about the ordeal.
 
Jan 22, 2008
193
Hunter 34 Seabeck WA
This thread reminds me of a couple of rules.

One I learned as a teen. When we drop something and strain to keep it in view as it falls, invariably the object disappears in mid-drop. What happened to it? Why, it turned into a COAT HANGER! That used to happen a lot back in the sixties. Lots of empty coat hangers in the closet. That's how morphing was invented for computers. The other rule I learned when building our home. Figure the cost with a computer down to the last penny,,,,then DOUBLE it.
 

GuyT

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May 8, 2007
406
Hunter 34 South Amboy, NJ
Knot MurhpFree

I think that boat name post affected my wiring!
 
Mar 18, 2007
86
Hunter 28.5 cedar creek lake, tx
I feel your pain

I think we can all say "been there, done that, going to do it again". I just installed my new cabin sole in my '85 H28.5 It is two seperate halves and I flushed the screws. It is not objectionable looking and affords me the luxury of being able to remove the halves each year for a thourough bilge inspection and cleaning. Fair winds Robert
 
Feb 26, 2004
23,348
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
Gee, when I go down to the boat I want to

MAXIMIZE my time there. I find all sorts of little things to do, but the list keeps growing. Now I have, thanks to you Warren, found a new way to increase my on-the-boat time: just push my pump faceplate into some little hard to get into crevice... Thanks for the great idea! :)
 
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Randy Jarrell

Boat Time

No such thing as a 15 min job on a boat. To compute project time on a boat double the estimated time for completion, then convert it to days. More often than not you will be right.
 
Jan 1, 2008
89
Islander 36 Salem MA
15 mins ya right !

I NEVER set a time for anything boat related . Or maybe I do . I just don't count on getting it done in the time expected!And when the job does get done in the expected time I wonder what I did wrong .
 
Jun 1, 2005
772
Pearson 303 Robinhood, ME
You are right Higgs...

and it ain't Manhatten! Could be Maine. Episode... Reminds me of a conversation with my son and his friend before they went out the door and out for the night/weekend. Dad... "Now don't do anything stupid." Son's friend... "Well you know Mister Pierpont... buy the time we acually realize it was stupid... it is usually too late".
 
May 17, 2007
180
HUNTER 25.5 St. Augustine
I feel your pain!

Warren, sorry to hear about your mis-adventure. That sucks! I'm also planning on launching next week. Of course it's always easy to play Monday morning quarterback, but I wonder if a thin film of petroleum jelly on the gasket of the water pump/impeller cover might prevent it from sticking? Your thoughts so the rest of us don't have to fight with it and repeat your misfortune. Thanks.
 
Dec 2, 2003
392
Catalina 350 Seattle
"It's Never Easy"

My wife and I have an inside joke that pertains to just about any project we tackle - whether it's home remodeling, boat repair, yard work, etc: "It's never easy" She'll know that when I come in after an hour on what should have been a simple task and ask her "What do we always say?" that the answer is "It's never easy" and that we better toddle on down to the hardware store, lumber yard, marine store, etc to get whatever thing that surprisingly crops up in the way of getting a job done. Whether it's the wrong size screw, finding a bolt with a socket size/type that you don't have (what the heck is a Torx, anyway?), breaking a bolt or tool, "It's never easy". Good Luck - and Keep Smiling, cause getting irritated doesn't help..... Tim Brogan April IV C350 #68 Seattle
 
Dec 2, 1999
15,184
Hunter Vision-36 Rio Vista, CA.
Caulk the crack & get a speed seal

Warren: 1. I would suggest that you just fill the crack with caulking (most anything will do the job. 2. I suggest that you get a Speed Seal for the water pump. There are 4 thumb nuts and only two of them need to be removed when you are removing the cover. It makes is almost easy enough to do without removing the pump from the engine (assuming a 2GM). I have had a few jobs that have really only taken 15 min. You just need to pick your battles. Good luck and happy sailing!
 
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