'82 33' Cherubini Emergency Tiller..pffftt

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HunterSailorJax

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Jun 15, 2009
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Hunter 33 Jacksonville
We were in the ICW in JAX. Rudder cables snapped. Reached for the emergency tiller....its had rusted away. Only a little piece of pipe and the fiberglass stud were left. Had to drive her home with a gaff stuck in the rudder post. If we had been offshore, it could have been nasty.

We are replacing all the Edson hardware, but I can't find any specs for the emergency tiller. All Edson just says that you really need one. :)

Does anyone have a pic and perhaps dimensions? I'm thinking of a length of stainless pipe with a bolt to engage the rudder post.

Any enlightenment will be greatly appreciated. Been at dock way too long.

cheers

butch
 
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Ed Schenck

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Jun 2, 2004
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Hunter 37-cutter, '79 41 23' 30"N 82 33' 20"W--------Huron, OH
A "Search" using H33 and tiller brought up lots of hits like this one: http://forums.hunter.sailboatowners.com/showthread.php?p=337438&highlight=tiller . Problem with the archives is that usually(always Phil?) the pictures are no longer with the post. Maybe the text will give you some ideas. I also have seen a Cherubini PDF somewhere that shows all the emergency tiller diagrams for all the boats.
 
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HunterSailorJax

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Hunter 33 Jacksonville
Thanks, guys. Steel piping will be less expensive then stainless. This will be the easy part..replacing the plate and pulleys under the pedestal is gonna be a bear..:)

smooth sailin!!
 
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sandpiper10471

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May 31, 2007
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Hunter 37 cutter Blind River
I had mine made up at a muffler shop. Of course it went rusty quickly and was heavy. Never had the opportunity or misfortune to use it though.
I didn't find it so bad working on the pulleys etc. under the cockpit but I was a bit younger then.
 
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Jun 3, 2004
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Hunter 1980 - 33 Bradenton
My fast, easy, cheep emergency tiller. Four or five years ago the cable slipped off the quadrant and stranded me out in the Gulf. After getting back, having an emergency tiller was at the top of the list. It was easy to make one out of 2" pipe. Cut a length 2' for the vertical and 32" for the horizontal legs. Put a cap on the end of the horizontal leg and a 90 degree elbow attaching the vertical leg on the other end. On the down end of the vertical leg about 2 and 1/4 inches in drill a hole for a stainless steel bolt 1/4" I think but measure the slot on the rudder post. That's all there is to it. Pictures below. Also without saying, put the steering system on the annual check sheet.
 

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rardiH36

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Jun 21, 2007
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Hunter Cherubini 36_80-82 Sausalito / San Francisco Bay
I would think that lots of owners of older boats are in the situation where sometime in the boat's history, either the emergency tiller was lost, became unuseable, or maybe if rudder post needed to replaced an emergency tiller fitting was not provided. The later was my case. The original tiller was still on the boat (very rusty, but only on the surface), but the rudder and the post had been changed out. After I bought my boat and while it was still on the hard after the survey, I decided do a steering malfunction drill dry run, only to find out that a matching slot was nowhere on the rudder post. That was quickly rectified.

Another safety item in the same category is the manual bilge pump. Either they no longer work and/or something important like the handle is missing. Writing this reminds me that its time to pour some water in my bilge and check that my Whale/Gusher manual pump is still operable after my repair last year.

Also its time to make a dedicated bracket under my aft lazerrete for my emergency tiller instead my current storage system of "its down there somewhere".
 
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Jun 3, 2004
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Hunter 1980 - 33 Bradenton
LOL, I actually have a second rudder post. Replaced after a bad pull off by Sea Tow bent the post and cracked the hull entry point for the rudder post. You are right with the age of these boats it is a surprise if they remain as designed. Everything is a custom fit.
 
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HunterSailorJax

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Jun 15, 2009
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Hunter 33 Jacksonville
Yet more Rudder fun

I finally got the wet deck repaired, and the steering pedestal mounted. Interestingly enough, the sheaves on the new idler ( or the whole idler assembly) is larger than the original. I now need to drop dished wheel about an inch down the rudder post. The wire from 'FIG776" will not go around wheel "fig 777" in a fair manner.

The wheel is in two pieces and is keyed to the rudder shaft. Should be a pain but a no brainer.

I cant loosen the four bolts that hold the destroyer wheel together. Ive tried a breaker bar and Liquid wrench. Next is to apply heat, but Im a bit nervous to use a torch in the enclosed space under the cockpit.

Has anyone else attempted this.
 

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JEH

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Aug 25, 2009
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Hunter Hunter 33 Jacksonville, Fl
Hey Butch, maybe I can help out

HunterSailorJax said:
We were in the ICW in JAX. Rudder cables snapped. Reached for the emergency tiller....its had rusted away. Only a little piece of pipe and the fiberglass stud were left. Had to drive her home with a gaff stuck in the rudder post. If we had been offshore, it could have been nasty.

We are replacing all the Edson hardware, but I can't find any specs for the emergency tiller. All Edson just says that you really need one. :)

Does anyone have a pic and perhaps dimensions? I'm thinking of a length of stainless pipe with a bolt to engage the rudder post.

Any enlightenment will be greatly appreciated. Been at dock way too long.

cheers

butch
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I too am from Jax, and own an 82/33. The Commodore says ours is in the cockpit locker. Maybe we can use it for a template to make you another one. My email is jhartman54@gmail.com
 
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