78 23 oday - line holding up the centerboard

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Sep 21, 2011
26
Oday 23 Traverse City
Hi everyone,

Yesterday the line that lifts my centerboard up has frayed to the inner rope. It is still attached but I need to make this repair quickly so the centerboard does not drop and I end up stuck in my slip. I see the tube where I can access the line but is it possible to make this repair with the boat in the water and how so I do it? Also do I need a specific line? When I dove under the boat I saw when the cable connects to the rope but could not make out how it does (ran out of air) and the bay way cold! Thanks for the help!
 
Jun 29, 2010
1,287
Beneteau First 235 Lake Minnetonka, MN
You will need to dive on the boat to swap it out in the water as it attaches to the centerboard and there is no access from above. As for getting a new one, D & R Marine comes through again for all things O' Day. Good luck!
 
May 31, 2004
858
Catalina 28 Branford
The only way to replace the line is by running a new line through the tube; you can do that easily by using the existing line to pull the new line through. Either end works: from the cockpit or from below. The pendent line attaches to the centerboard with a shackle. A clevis pin goes through a hole in the trailing edge of the centerboard, which is attached to a shackle, which is held by an eye loop in the pendent line. The pendent line goes into the centerboard slot, through the tube you mentioned, and runs up to the cockpit.

Simple to replace. From the cockpit: remove the grommet at the bridge deck that surrounds the line. Attach the eye of the new pendent line (the part that will attach to the centerboard shackle) to the end of the pendent line in the cockpit. I used duct tape, but you can sew them together for an even smaller profile. Put the grommet on the end of the new line, and tie a stopper knot at the end of the line. You are about to pull the new line through the tube using the old line, and the last thing you want is to pull it too far!

Go below the boat to the centerboard. Remove the existing shackle from the centerboard. This is done by removing the cotter pin from the clevis pin. Pull the line down, pulling the new line through the tube. Once the end of the old line pulls through the eye of the new line, remove the tape that holds the two lines together. Put the shackle through the eye of the new line, and attach it to the centerboard. As long as you are replacing the line, I recommend replacing the shackle, clevis pin and cotter pin too. Back in the cockpit, reattach the grommet to the bridge deck and adjust your stopper knot to allow the board to go down as far as you like.

What to use for a replacement line? Rudy at D&R Marine sells a direct replacement for the Oday 23/25 pendent line. http://www.drmarine.com/proddetail.asp?prod=DR80-01

You need a narrow width shackle that might not be easy to find (it has to fit in the centerboard slot without sticking), and Rudy has them and the proper length line already made up. I actually did some research when replacing my line, and I think you might be able to purchase the line and shackle a bit less expensively if you are willing to put in the effort, but you can't beat the convenience of ordering right from Rudy. Saving two dollars didn't seem worth it to me. I went with my man Rudy. And if you have one of those old fashioned rope-to-wire pendent lines, don't worry about replacing it with an all synthetic line. There is no longer any reason to put up with those dual material items: no-stretch line is now cheap enough for all, so we don't have to worry about that rope-to-wire mechanical connection

Can you do the line replacement with the boat in the water? I sure couldn't. Not even close. When the clevis pin on my line failed (or fell out because the cotter pin failed), I dove under my boat just to find out why my line wasn't working. I barely had enough time underwater to figure out what the problem was, let alone fix it. I wound up sailing the rest of the summer with the board all the way down, and replaced the line when I hauled the boat out of the water at the end of the season.

Good luck.
 
Sep 21, 2011
26
Oday 23 Traverse City
Thanks guys. One other question. When I dove on the boat I noticed the wire connection line. Are you saying I should bypass this with the new connection line from D & R? Thanks!
 
Oct 10, 2009
1,092
Catalina 27 3657 Lake Monroe
Yes, go ahead and replace the wire to rope line with the one Rudy sells. If you have the boat where you can access the bottom of the keel, I recommend also checking the soundness of the plates, wedges and pin that hold the board in place. One of the wedges was missing on mine and I'm pretty sure the PO sailed that way for years because there was a lot of bottom paint in the slot for the port wedge.
 
May 31, 2004
858
Catalina 28 Branford
Absolutely replace the rope to wire combo line with an all rope line. Rope to wire lines such as your pendent line or halyards were originally developed to deal with the fact that rope lines stretched; the more rope, the more stretch. Using wire in those lines lessened the amount of stretch a sailor had to deal with. After all, no one wants to have to retension a halyard after sailing for an hour. The wire to rope splice was problematic, but considered to be an acceptable trade off. However, with the advent of low cost no-stretch synthetic rope lines, the need for the wire and the splice is gone. Say a fond farewell to the wire/rope splice and get thee an all rope pendent line.
 

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Dec 31, 2006
78
-O'Day 23' Kilmarnock
What Mike said about the narrow shackle is very important, or you will have problems with the shackle jamming. Deep cleansing breath and good luck, mind the barnicles y'all
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Aug 31, 2009
78
Oday 25 Branford, CT
Be aware that what Rudy sends you for a shackle may not be narrow enough. When I replaced my pendant line from D&R, the supplied shackle would still get wedged in the cb trunk. I replaced it with a shackle with a self-locking allen head pin, so the head of the pin sits flush with the side of the shackle.

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Aug 31, 2009
78
Oday 25 Branford, CT
Trinkka said:
Here's the shackle that I bought off Rudy years ago.
Huh, that doesn't look like the stock part that came with my pendant line. Did you specifically ask him for a narrower shackle?
 
Jan 24, 2005
4,881
Oday 222 Dighton, Ma.
Huh, that doesn't look like the stock part that came with my pendant line. Did you specifically ask him for a narrower shackle?
No. As a matter of fact, when I went to his shop years ago with my old pendant line looking to buy a new one he looked at my shackle which was very similar to this one with the exception that my old shackle didn't have a small spool for the eye splice and he showed me the one I have now.
He said that the spliced eye would hold up better with this type of shackle so I bought the line and the shackle off him and spliced the eye on it myself. I've since inverted the line and re spliced it. I'll probably replace the line some day and splice the old shackle on to it.

This shackle may be too long for your keel slot depth if you use the existing hole in your centerboard. My keel slot also has a special pocket for the pendant line sheave which you O'Day does not have and this can make a difference in how much room you may have when the board is all the way up. Width wise, it would work on and O'Day 23 or 25, but the length could be a problem unless you can relocate the hole in the board so that the shackle jaws go in further.
 
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