7 Years no haul out

dLj

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Mar 23, 2017
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Belliure 41 Back in the Chesapeake
But, are you saying that boats are not constantly in a state of degradation? That unless we are putting energy into holding them together that they are actively falling apart at all times?

I mean, that's just a basic fact of boat ownership. I'm not sure what your argument against that is. I'm sure you have a point, but my sense is that you just object to thinking about it on a compressed time scale. That is, since a thing will last 20 years, you don't see the degradation in a 24-hour period as being significant.

I think we are either just talking cross purposes and/or you are trying to argue some point that escapes me.

In any case, we are well off the thread, here.
It seems that for some reason you have taken umbrage with things I have said. It was not my intention. In an early post you said that degradation was scientific. I wasn't sure what you were referring to so I asked. You gave a one liner: the second law of thermo dynamics. I actually thought you were joking as I fully understand what the second law of thermodynamics is or is not. Hence my response. You then responded with a long explanation as to why it is based on entropy.

That post had me scratching my head as it seems you believe that the second law of thermo dynamics is the fundamental cause of all things degrading. Initially I was not going to respond feeling it would simply lead to a conversation going nowhere. However, as I feel it is rude to not respond to someone addressing me specifically, I decided that perhaps better to explain how the second law of thermodynamics cannot be the fundamental reason for anything degrading.

If you would read what I've written - in it's entirety - I believe all questions have been answered. Also, I recommend not taking small snippets of what I've written, then ask pointed questions based on that snippet. That is actually a confrontational form of communication with an aim to support one person's position (yours) and force the other person (me) to succumb to your point of view.

I prefer open and honest conversations where both parties can express their opinions. No one has to be "the winner". In this fashion we can all learn from each other. We all have different ideas, knowledge bases, and experiences. It is through the open communication that we all learn.

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pgandw

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Oct 14, 2023
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Stuart (ODay) Mariner 19 Yeopim Creek
As far as trailerable boats go, there are perhaps far more "raised flower gardens" or "leaf collections" sitting on rusting, rotting trailers in back yards than there are wrecks at moorings or on the beach.

Because trailerable boats can usually be stored for nothing, maintenance is not urgent if the boat is not being used. The rebuild effort on a trailerable is usually a DIY, but as with larger boats, the cost of the rebuild will almost always exceed the value of the completed rebuild.

But then the OP wasn't asking about trailerable boats.

Fred W
Stuart (ODay) Mariner 19 #4133 Sweet P
 
Mar 16, 2025
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Halman 20 Cape Canaveral
Well I went and looked at the boat this past weekend..... I ended up passing up on the boat. It just would've taken too much time and work to get the boat dialed how I wanted her. I feel like I would have been in over my head. Everyone's advice here was taken into account and I thank you all for helping me make an educated/informed decision. For now I'll stick to my current sailboat. I have a Halman 20. Shes a 20' double ender with a full keel and is a perfect boat for me. I'll keep spending time sailing her and enjoying and learning