We are about to take delivery of our 460, but alas, no TV!!!!!. Australia has a different broadcast system to the US. So a US TV won't work in Aust. The Australian importer cant find a local TV that will fit the hole. It is likely that the TV's supplied to Hunter for their 460's in the US have a counterpart that works on the Australian system. Could any one let me know the MAKE and MODEL supplied ex-factory. Thanks KG
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Australian TV
Panasonic makes one which is capable of receiving both systems. I had one while in Sydney and recall the price was $399AU but the size may be a problem since it comes in certain sizes only - I believe the smallest was 14 inches. Don't recall the model number as I left it there but I'm sure Panasonic or any dealer can look it up.
Panasonic makes one which is capable of receiving both systems. I had one while in Sydney and recall the price was $399AU but the size may be a problem since it comes in certain sizes only - I believe the smallest was 14 inches. Don't recall the model number as I left it there but I'm sure Panasonic or any dealer can look it up.
Kids have abandoned ship!
Don, Thanks for your comments. But I really need to know the MAKE & MODEL of a TV that fits in the space provided in the 460's, even if it wont' work in Aust. That way I can contact the manufacturer and see if they have a version of the same model that works in Aust. As you sailed to Aust. some time ago I presume it wasn't in a 460. Thanks again KG
Don, Thanks for your comments. But I really need to know the MAKE & MODEL of a TV that fits in the space provided in the 460's, even if it wont' work in Aust. That way I can contact the manufacturer and see if they have a version of the same model that works in Aust. As you sailed to Aust. some time ago I presume it wasn't in a 460. Thanks again KG
Lure the Kids Back!
In the event that the only compatible TV for that system won't fit in the space, you might consider having a good boat carpenter enlarge the compartment in order to lure the kids back to the boat. Also you might consider an AC model and just run it off the inverter.
In the event that the only compatible TV for that system won't fit in the space, you might consider having a good boat carpenter enlarge the compartment in order to lure the kids back to the boat. Also you might consider an AC model and just run it off the inverter.
Next Week
Kevin, I am going to take delivery of my 460 (with a TV) next Thursday. If you still do not have the make and model by then, email me and I will send you back the info. By the way, we put together a pretty extensive checklist of things that we want to test at the end of the commissioning. If you are interested in a copy of the list, let me know and I will email that to you as well. George george@cordero2.com
Kevin, I am going to take delivery of my 460 (with a TV) next Thursday. If you still do not have the make and model by then, email me and I will send you back the info. By the way, we put together a pretty extensive checklist of things that we want to test at the end of the commissioning. If you are interested in a copy of the list, let me know and I will email that to you as well. George george@cordero2.com
What did kids do on boats before there WAS tv?
Both boats and kids--of all ages--have been around a LOT longer than television...and somehow they managed to entertain themselves--quite successfully. (The same could be said about adults, too!) You might find that the lack of a tv is actually a blessing...'cuz it will force your kids to actually interact with you and each other--to develop people skills. Once upon a time children read books...they had to USE their minds and imagination to "see" the action. Gosh...they might even want to get involved in learning some sailing skills...Even if they're very young, there are skills they can learn...and with learning comes the sense of accomplishment AND the sense of responsibility that goes with becoming a good sailor. TV isn't like electric power or running water...it's not essential. And unless Australian tv is a LOT better than anything on US tv, has little of value to offer. The hole the tv is in now would prob'ly make a very good bookcase with a little modifcation. And IMHO, you'd be doing the kids--and yourselves!--a huge favor by converting it to one. Just my $.02 worth...nobody has to agree with me. But I've been dying to say it since this question first showed up.
Both boats and kids--of all ages--have been around a LOT longer than television...and somehow they managed to entertain themselves--quite successfully. (The same could be said about adults, too!) You might find that the lack of a tv is actually a blessing...'cuz it will force your kids to actually interact with you and each other--to develop people skills. Once upon a time children read books...they had to USE their minds and imagination to "see" the action. Gosh...they might even want to get involved in learning some sailing skills...Even if they're very young, there are skills they can learn...and with learning comes the sense of accomplishment AND the sense of responsibility that goes with becoming a good sailor. TV isn't like electric power or running water...it's not essential. And unless Australian tv is a LOT better than anything on US tv, has little of value to offer. The hole the tv is in now would prob'ly make a very good bookcase with a little modifcation. And IMHO, you'd be doing the kids--and yourselves!--a huge favor by converting it to one. Just my $.02 worth...nobody has to agree with me. But I've been dying to say it since this question first showed up.
Beat me to it...
I wanted to say something along the same lines Peggie, but since I don't even have kids (on purpose) I thought it better to be quiet for a change. Glad you put your 2cents in. I thought kids were for crew anyway! Who better to swab decks, climb the mast, and do all those things better left to little people?
I wanted to say something along the same lines Peggie, but since I don't even have kids (on purpose) I thought it better to be quiet for a change. Glad you put your 2cents in. I thought kids were for crew anyway! Who better to swab decks, climb the mast, and do all those things better left to little people?
Me too Peggie!
I wanted to say that, but I was hoping deep down, that maybe he's joking. Please be joking Kevin. I stirred enough pots that I thought I would just let this one pass. But a weak moment and I feel better.
I wanted to say that, but I was hoping deep down, that maybe he's joking. Please be joking Kevin. I stirred enough pots that I thought I would just let this one pass. But a weak moment and I feel better.
Made your point
We sailors with KOB (kids on board) (ours are actually our kid's kids)appreciate being able to pop a movie in the VCR after dinner and showers. Captian Ron happens to be their favorite. Mickey and I can sit out in the cockpit and enjoy the evening and a glass of wine after a busy day of playing pirates, reading stories, trolling toy boats off the stern, looking for dolphins, fishing, swimming, driving the dingy, etc. You name it, they do it. Let's give Kevin a break. It was a catchy title and got alot of attention. Unfortunately the wrong kind. Maybe someone can answer his question? Did anyone actually address his issue?
We sailors with KOB (kids on board) (ours are actually our kid's kids)appreciate being able to pop a movie in the VCR after dinner and showers. Captian Ron happens to be their favorite. Mickey and I can sit out in the cockpit and enjoy the evening and a glass of wine after a busy day of playing pirates, reading stories, trolling toy boats off the stern, looking for dolphins, fishing, swimming, driving the dingy, etc. You name it, they do it. Let's give Kevin a break. It was a catchy title and got alot of attention. Unfortunately the wrong kind. Maybe someone can answer his question? Did anyone actually address his issue?
Right on Deb!
I agree with Debbie's post completely. Snobbery drives me nuts, and the, well you bought a boat to sail not watch TV didn't you, comments are cheap. People who sail with kids needs lots of different distractions. Because they pop a movie in the VCR doesn't mean they don't communicate or share other adventures. When sailing for a week in the summer we allow each kid ( 8 & 10 year olds) to each bring two movies. This is in addition to fishing poles, books on fish, sea adventures etc... A TV/VCR does have a place in a well rounded cruising experience. Others who think they are so pure, and that we should be doing something else with our children, are missing the boat
Although we have no TV reception by choice on our 380 the VCR has been invaluable and enjoyable for the whole family. And as a lover of great Cabernets, I agree that sharing a great bottle of wine in the cockpit with the one you love, while the kids amuse themselves watching Moby Dick, is what the cruising experience is all about. Just my 2 cents, and thanks for letting me vent! Bob Knott H380
I agree with Debbie's post completely. Snobbery drives me nuts, and the, well you bought a boat to sail not watch TV didn't you, comments are cheap. People who sail with kids needs lots of different distractions. Because they pop a movie in the VCR doesn't mean they don't communicate or share other adventures. When sailing for a week in the summer we allow each kid ( 8 & 10 year olds) to each bring two movies. This is in addition to fishing poles, books on fish, sea adventures etc... A TV/VCR does have a place in a well rounded cruising experience. Others who think they are so pure, and that we should be doing something else with our children, are missing the boat
Although we have no TV reception by choice on our 380 the VCR has been invaluable and enjoyable for the whole family. And as a lover of great Cabernets, I agree that sharing a great bottle of wine in the cockpit with the one you love, while the kids amuse themselves watching Moby Dick, is what the cruising experience is all about. Just my 2 cents, and thanks for letting me vent! Bob Knott H380
Big kids, too
I once did about 30 days of singlehanding, and I can tell you that there were a few nights *I* was glad I had the VCR aboard. Hey, the peace and solitude is terrific, but so is good movie once in a while. Like Bob, though, I rigged my boat to be incapable of receiving "Melrose Place" or anything similar. We did get a little off track with this question, didn't we? But then, that's how some of the best threads happen. I suspect that finding an Aussie TV to go in that slot will require a tape measure and a shopping trip; no less. ph.
I once did about 30 days of singlehanding, and I can tell you that there were a few nights *I* was glad I had the VCR aboard. Hey, the peace and solitude is terrific, but so is good movie once in a while. Like Bob, though, I rigged my boat to be incapable of receiving "Melrose Place" or anything similar.
We did get a little off track with this question, didn't we? But then, that's how some of the best threads happen. I suspect that finding an Aussie TV to go in that slot will require a tape measure and a shopping trip; no less. ph.- Status