37c Can i delete the back stay adjuster?

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kwaai

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Apr 5, 2014
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hunter 37c la paz, baja
I am doing all new rigging, upgrading to 5/16" with swage-less fittings. I would like to remove the back stay adjuster in order to make the seating area more comfortable.
Do I need the adjuster? When would I ever use it?
What about the additional rigging line on each side of the mast that is adjustable up and down the side rail? Do I need this?
Looking at another 37c moored near mine that does not have these.
I have limited experience with rigging and I would not like to make a mistake out of ignorance. I feel that if I install the new upgraded rigging and tune it, it should not need these additional components.
 
Stu Jackson

Stu Jackson

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Feb 26, 2004
23,051
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
Most skippers with backstay adjusters who have issues with seating and head banging sometimes fail to recognize that raising the adjuster to a much higher position will allow continued use of the adjuster as well as fix the head banger. Also, put two turnbuckles at the transom instead of one at the split.
 
Bill1565

Bill1565

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Jan 22, 2008
1,483
Hunter 37 C sloop Punta Gorda FL
You need the turnbuckle on the back stay to adjust your mast to vertical/ slightly raked back. If you have a hand wheel or hydraulic "back stay adjuster, it is wasted on the masthead cutter rig. The running back stays are to stabilize the mast when you fly the staysail.
 
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kwaai

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Apr 5, 2014
11
hunter 37c la paz, baja
please clarify Bill

Bill1565 said:
You need the turnbuckle on the back stay to adjust your mast to vertical/ slightly raked back. If you have a hand wheel or hydraulic "back stay adjuster, it is wasted on the masthead cutter rig. The running back stays are to stabilize the mast when you fly the staysail.
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Sorry Bill, not sure I understand. I have the hand wheel adjuster, I do not have a staysail. I am running a 120% Genoa and converting my main to furling main. So if I understand you correctly I remove the hand wheel and the running back stays?

I was thinking of converting one of the running backstays as a hoist for the dingy to get it out of the water and away from petty thieves.
 
Bill1565

Bill1565

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Jan 22, 2008
1,483
Hunter 37 C sloop Punta Gorda FL
Will take photo tomorrow. Dark here now. We sail as sloop also, but we have staysail halyard as well as spinnaker halyard. Both would do to lift dingy. Our running backs were wire to near the deck with 4:1 tackle. Not suitable for lifting dingy. Not enuff hoist to cope with bridle.
 
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Steve Dion

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Dec 2, 1999
15,184
Hunter Vision-36 Rio Vista, CA.
The original H37C did not have the "wheel". This is a feature that a previous owner probably added. If you want to maintain a traditional backstay with a turn buckle.

I think you would be better off getting a dingy davit setup to move the dingy out of "harms" way.
 
Bill1565

Bill1565

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Jan 22, 2008
1,483
Hunter 37 C sloop Punta Gorda FL
We use davits, but we coastal cruise. We are careful about weather when we go out into the Atlantic or open Gulf of Mexico.
 
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Blaise

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Jan 22, 2008
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Hunter 37-cutter Bradenton
Midnight Sun has a backstay adjuster. It is a Barbarossa/Harken which uses a winch handle, and is completely out of the way. I must disagree that it "wasted" on a masthead rig, cutter or not. We tighten or loosen our backstay over three inches. It removes headstay sag and greatly improves up hill performance. It also allows us to unload the rig when we are not sailing.
 
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