Has anyone put in (or researched putting in) a second reef point on the main sail of the H216? I have been out at times where the wind picked up to the point where I needed a second reef point to keep from heading up.
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I asked the guys at Doyle Chesapeake about a second reef for my 240 the other day. "At least $300," they said. probly a little less on a 216 but not cheap.
I asked the guys at Doyle Chesapeake about a second reef for my 240 the other day. "At least $300," they said. probly a little less on a 216 but not cheap.
23.5 Costs
I had 2 reefs put in the main for my 23.5 2 years ago. One above and one below the standard reef. The cost was $150. The loft (not Doyle) also took some of the bagginess out in the process. It may or may not be a good investment depending on the age of the sail. For reference, I previously had Doyle replace the webbing on the genoa ($69) and fix the batten pockets on the main ($95). Boat = Hole in the water in which to throw money. Functional boat = Happiness And they say money can't but happiness.
I had 2 reefs put in the main for my 23.5 2 years ago. One above and one below the standard reef. The cost was $150. The loft (not Doyle) also took some of the bagginess out in the process. It may or may not be a good investment depending on the age of the sail. For reference, I previously had Doyle replace the webbing on the genoa ($69) and fix the batten pockets on the main ($95). Boat = Hole in the water in which to throw money. Functional boat = Happiness And they say money can't but happiness.
The Sailmakers Apprintice says
all you have to do is determine where the reef will be placed (duplicated the spacing between the foot and first reef) and then put a reef tack and reef clew and several reef points in. Oh yea you will need to install reinforcing on all the above so you have something strong to attach the clew, tack and points to. While it is just a sew job I make enought money doing my day job to make it not worth the effort dollars wise. Course I like doing my own stuff so I have the skill should I ever need it while out on the wide blue. $300 don't sound bad for what you are getting.
all you have to do is determine where the reef will be placed (duplicated the spacing between the foot and first reef) and then put a reef tack and reef clew and several reef points in. Oh yea you will need to install reinforcing on all the above so you have something strong to attach the clew, tack and points to. While it is just a sew job I make enought money doing my day job to make it not worth the effort dollars wise. Course I like doing my own stuff so I have the skill should I ever need it while out on the wide blue. $300 don't sound bad for what you are getting.
Ed
Where did you get the $150 reefpoint? Like Bill said, it's just a sew job - didn't occur to me I might go "mom and pop" for less than than fancy pants Doyle.
Where did you get the $150 reefpoint? Like Bill said, it's just a sew job - didn't occur to me I might go "mom and pop" for less than than fancy pants Doyle.
JEFF...
I had the following work done this winter on the main of my 2001 h260: • Second reef • Replace middle lower batten • Sew both lower batten pockets closed • Replace telltails They also made a new bag to accommodate the sail with the two lower battens sewed in. The cost of the work was about $150.00. If you’re interested, suggest you contact Craig Thayer at FABRICRAFT/FC SAILS in North Syracuse, NY, e-mail: FABRICRAFT@A-ZNET.COM Paul Pretty Lady
I had the following work done this winter on the main of my 2001 h260: • Second reef • Replace middle lower batten • Sew both lower batten pockets closed • Replace telltails They also made a new bag to accommodate the sail with the two lower battens sewed in. The cost of the work was about $150.00. If you’re interested, suggest you contact Craig Thayer at FABRICRAFT/FC SAILS in North Syracuse, NY, e-mail: FABRICRAFT@A-ZNET.COM Paul Pretty Lady
Not needed.
On the H21' a 2nd reef point is not needed. To overpower the reefed vessel the wind would need to be quite strong, to the point, it would be safer to take the sail down. Put your money into the outboard.
On the H21' a 2nd reef point is not needed. To overpower the reefed vessel the wind would need to be quite strong, to the point, it would be safer to take the sail down. Put your money into the outboard.
2nd reef
had a second reef put in last year on 240 for $200, worth the money to get it done right as it is usually a tad windy when using the 2nd reef.
had a second reef put in last year on 240 for $200, worth the money to get it done right as it is usually a tad windy when using the 2nd reef.
turn around time
What is the typical turn-around time for getting another reef-point put in. I assume you must mail your sail somewhere. And then they do it and mail it back. Is this someting best done in the off-season (wintertime)... I single-handle quite a bit.. And when I'm with family members, they don't like a lot of heel... So a 2nd reef point is important to the way I sail...
What is the typical turn-around time for getting another reef-point put in. I assume you must mail your sail somewhere. And then they do it and mail it back. Is this someting best done in the off-season (wintertime)... I single-handle quite a bit.. And when I'm with family members, they don't like a lot of heel... So a 2nd reef point is important to the way I sail...
Jeff
Off-season for sailmakers is late summer, not winter - the latter is their busiest time of the year! I was the first to reply to your question - I left out that the guys at the sail loft in Annapolis said they could do August "right away." They've nothing to do that time of year....
Off-season for sailmakers is late summer, not winter - the latter is their busiest time of the year! I was the first to reply to your question - I left out that the guys at the sail loft in Annapolis said they could do August "right away." They've nothing to do that time of year....
Drew
I went with Quantum Sails out of Racine, Wi. You are correct on the busy time for a loft. Most try to get orders during the winter at boat shows. You'll also get a better deal later in the season. The work I had done was in late August. Turnaround time was about a week but it is within driving distance for me so I didn't have to wait for shipping. I'm out for several hours at a time, 4 to 5 times a week, mostly single handed. Winds change a lot (3 to 20+ and back) in the course of a day. The extra reefs allow more versatility and confort. But then, sometimes the motor works best. No wind or thunderstorms come to mind. The latter is no fun.
I went with Quantum Sails out of Racine, Wi. You are correct on the busy time for a loft. Most try to get orders during the winter at boat shows. You'll also get a better deal later in the season. The work I had done was in late August. Turnaround time was about a week but it is within driving distance for me so I didn't have to wait for shipping. I'm out for several hours at a time, 4 to 5 times a week, mostly single handed. Winds change a lot (3 to 20+ and back) in the course of a day. The extra reefs allow more versatility and confort. But then, sometimes the motor works best. No wind or thunderstorms come to mind. The latter is no fun.
Wish I had the 2nd reef point
when I was "single-handed sailing" on Sunday. The wind was blowing between 30 and 40 knots... Needless to say, I ended up simply deploying an anchor and sat on some boat cushions by the companion-way (to block the wind) and read a book and had my lunch. When I got tired of the boat pounding (while at anchor) I pulled up the anchor (after I got it unhooked form the oyster bed) and motored back. At least I got practice setting up, playing with the anchor, and tearing down.
when I was "single-handed sailing" on Sunday. The wind was blowing between 30 and 40 knots... Needless to say, I ended up simply deploying an anchor and sat on some boat cushions by the companion-way (to block the wind) and read a book and had my lunch. When I got tired of the boat pounding (while at anchor) I pulled up the anchor (after I got it unhooked form the oyster bed) and motored back. At least I got practice setting up, playing with the anchor, and tearing down.
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