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Jul 24, 2006
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Legnos, Starwind, Regal Mystic 30 cutter, 22 trailer sailor, bow rider NEW PORT RICHEY, FL
nice mods!

Thanks for posting your mods, very well done. I have a few questions

1: I didn't know you could use your vhf antennae for a radio signal antennae? That's great! I have always used the short 1ft platic ones instead. Does it give good reception? Does splitting the cable give poorer performance with the vhf send/recieve? Do you have to turn radio off to use vhf?

2: I had speakers in the cabin only on an Oday 25. To hear it adequately in the cockpit I had to turn the vollume way up. It was way too loud in the cabin if I had to go down bellow for something and a war could have broken out on deck and I would'nt have heard a thing. I installed 2 6 inch marine speakers in the cockpit and it was way better. Could use the fader control on the radio to adjust the sound level to acceptable levels and turn off the cockpit when at anchor to be politically correct of fellow boaters.

3: I wish you would have stated the cost of each item in your mods. I don't know why almost noone includes the costs of stuff when they share their mods?

4: thanks again for taking the time to inform the world!
 
Apr 8, 2010
1,606
Frers 33 41426 Westport, CT
1: I didn't know you could use your vhf antennae for a radio signal antennae? That's great! I have always used the short 1ft platic ones instead. Does it give good reception? Does splitting the cable give poorer performance with the vhf send/recieve? Do you have to turn radio off to use vhf?
I get incredibly good FM reception, and I don't notice any degredation in the VHF performance, but any degredation there is was more than offset by the new antenna cable hrough the cabin and and connectors like the deck fitting that were installed through the whole process.

As for turning off the radio / VHF etc, the splitter automatically disconnects the FM antenna when you key up the VHF to transmit as to not damage the FM receiver, it's 100% automatic and requires no programming or config. Both FM and VHF can receive at the same time.


2: I had speakers in the cabin only on an Oday 25. To hear it adequately in the cockpit I had to turn the vollume way up. It was way too loud in the cabin if I had to go down bellow for something and a war could have broken out on deck and I would'nt have heard a thing. I installed 2 6 inch marine speakers in the cockpit and it was way better. Could use the fader control on the radio to adjust the sound level to acceptable levels and turn off the cockpit when at anchor to be politically correct of fellow boaters.
To get the volume loud enough to hear in the cockpit does mean it's pretty loud in the cabin. I have considered adding speakers to the cockpit (even went so far as to buy another set of 6 1/2" speakers which are still in my trunk), but I am not yet sure I want such large speakers in the cockpit. I have looked at possibly installing weatherproof motorcycle speakers on the bimini frame as that would fill the sound clearly without requireing two 6" holes in the exterior of the boat.

3: I wish you would have stated the cost of each item in your mods. I don't know why almost noone includes the costs of stuff when they share their mods?
I can only speak for myself here, but sometimes it's best that we don't keep track of how much these projects cost, it would be much harder to justify owning a boat if we really looked at everything in dollars and cents!

BUT since you asked, here are some rough costs, I'll try to include cost of wire, connectors, etc. to a reasonable degree...

Electrical Panel Upgrade $600
Cell Phone Charging Shelf $0
Inverter Installation $350
LED V-Berth Light $50
Stereo Installation $350
Fortress Anchor $100
Aft Cabin Stoage Lockers $70
Cabin Fans $50
VHF Deck Fitting $50
Ships Bell $7
Bimini Hings $35



4: thanks again for taking the time to inform the world!
I get many of my ideas from others on this forum, I figure it's only fair to document what I do and share it back with others, half in hopes that someone else can get ideas from me, and half to show my apprecieation for the time and effort the community puts into this site.
 
Feb 4, 2005
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Catalina C-30 Mattituck, NY
[FONT=Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial]Hi Guys - I thought I would chime in here with a pov re the Stereo installation on my Catlaina 30.

- The splitter works great for me and I have not noticed any reception degradation in reception for either unit.

- I bought 4 marine Box Speakers from West marine. I got them on sale + with the addition of some store coupons, paid maybe $75-85 per pair ($150+ total). One set was installed inside the cabin. I decided to install the 2nd set on the SS rail stanchions in my cockpit. I actually removed the rails completely, drilled a hole in the base to allow the speaker wire to run up and inside the stanchion and then mounted the box speakers up higher on the stanchion between the base and the upper rail. I sealed up the holes in the base with silicon. Works great, you can rotate them if your sitting too close and they are hardly noticeable from a ascetics standpoint. Seems to blend right in with the rest of the hardware and equipment. I don't have any pictures handy. One last thing - the speakers are totally waterproof so I leave them up all summer then take them down and off the boat for the winter.[/FONT]
 
Dec 11, 2008
1,338
catalina C27 stillwater
Another thought on cockpit speakers... One can take advantage of the un-cored areas just under the seats, (like where your calves are when sitting) to use as mounting surfaces for tactile transducers. Basically takes the fiberglass and makes it vibrate like a speaker cone.

Yes, I work in the 12-volt electronics industry for a living selling marine amps and speakers, so what I am writing seems controversial or snake oil, but it is possible to get sound into the cockpit without drilling any holes. Sound quality is not what it would be with a real 6" coaxial spekaer mounted ina hole, but again, this solution allows it to work without drilling holes. I have heard these used in lots of different applications, and they actually will surprise you when you try it... It seems like this shouldn't work, but these actually work pretty well.

Wire up two sets of these, (in parallel) to show a 4-ohm load to each channel of the REAR output of your radio, (the purple/purple-black and green/green-black wires) and glue them to the backside/inside of the cockpit seat walls: http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=297-206

This prevents the cutting of holes, prevents the damage of putting a heel through a speaker grill, prevents cluttering up the good looks of a clean cockpit... Lots of good reasons to try them!

Something to consider.... and it is a fairly inexpensive solution...
 

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Apr 8, 2010
1,606
Frers 33 41426 Westport, CT
This prevents the cutting of holes, prevents the damage of putting a heel througha speaker grill, prevents cluttering up the good looks of a clean cockpit... Lots of good reasons to try them!

Something to consider.... and it is a fairly inexpensive solution...
Thanks for the idea. I've seen these before, but never heard what kind of audio quality they provide. I hadn't thought of this for the boat. It's cheap enough that I may give it a try.
 
Dec 11, 2008
1,338
catalina C27 stillwater
Thanks for the idea. I've seen these before, but never heard what kind of audio quality they provide. I hadn't thought of this for the boat. It's cheap enough that I may give it a try.

It is easy to get caught up in the snobbery of audio perfection, so much so that many people can't seem to get past this kind of stuff. They have to realize there are two kinds of listening, active and passive.

I often sit down for intense active listening, where I sit right in the middle of the room equidistant from my custom hand-made speakers and close my eyes focusing on stage width, depth and instrument and vocal placement in the sound field. That is the audio geek in me "falling into" the music

However in a boat out sailing, the focus is the total experience. To that end the music is only the soundtrack to the experience and your ear-brain mechanism can forgive you lots of minor flaws sonically. That the music is there, reproduced with no glaring flaws, is quite adequate...
 

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Nov 7, 2011
3,833
Catalina 30 Mk II Cedar Creek, Bayville NJ
Brain,
Enjoyed reading your blog and all the great project write ups. The electrical projects will help me with my O'day upgrades if I stay with it.
 
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