Going to look at a 1979 Cherubini at the inspection what would you say are the major issues one should look for. I was told this was used for a sailing school in NC. Thanks.
Paul M
Paul M
Got recommendations of surveyors and diesel mechanics and riggers. Thanks for the links most helpful. CheersIn my experience, the predominant issues for any boat this age are core damage from water infiltration, the state of the standing rigging and any steering or rudder issues. The condition of the diesel is also important, but more difficult to judge unless you are a diesel mechanic. A good surveyor will assess the hull, decks and rudder with a moisture meter and 'sounding' with a small hammer. Standing rig is usually judged on age, but crack inspection of the chain plates, turnbuckles, etc. can be done visually and with the help of penetrant dye. You can do a lot of this yourself if you are an experience boat owner and handy, but a good survey is well worth the price. Maybe what you should be asking is for endorsements of good marine surveyors in North Carolina...
Read through the owner modifications for the H37 Cutter on this site and also check out these links for some good info from owners who have done extensive renovations:
http://austinsailor.net/upgrades.html
http://hunter37.homestead.com/index.html
http://mathurin2.blogspot.ca/
Bearing in mind that boat is 38 years old original weaknesses are not particularly relevant. It may be well maintained or it may be total junk or somewhere in between. Every time this kind of question is asked the overwhelming opinion is get a survey
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Does anyone have a similar list of links to the Hunter 30's like these? Very nice links, but I'd love to see what folks have done with the 30 as I'm about to embark upon a major restore of one...In my experience, the predominant issues for any boat this age are core damage from water infiltration, the state of the standing rigging and any steering or rudder issues. The condition of the diesel is also important, but more difficult to judge unless you are a diesel mechanic. A good surveyor will assess the hull, decks and rudder with a moisture meter and 'sounding' with a small hammer. Standing rig is usually judged on age, but crack inspection of the chain plates, turnbuckles, etc. can be done visually and with the help of penetrant dye. You can do a lot of this yourself if you are an experience boat owner and handy, but a good survey is well worth the price. Maybe what you should be asking is for endorsements of good marine surveyors wherever the boat is located...
Read through the owner modifications for the H37 Cutter on this site and also check out these links for some good info from owners who have done extensive renovations:
http://austinsailor.net/upgrades.html
http://hunter37.homestead.com/index.html
http://mathurin2.blogspot.ca/
You are posing this as a simple question when it is very complex. Face the fact that whatever you do, it is delusional to believe our HC 37's are worth more than about $25,000 in good condition. (Remember whatever you are doing to the seller, some time in the future a buyers will be doing to you)So I looked at the boat today. A few soft spots in the deck and she will need a new cabin sole, but My question, the keel was broken loose from the hull and had some slight movements in it. The boat yard said it would cost 4000 - 5000 to fix. Dose that sound right or should I be bailing out on this deal? I love the layout and it really dose seem like a solid boat. Thanks Paul M
You are posing this as a simple question when it is very complex. Face the fact that whatever you do, it is delusional to believe our HC 37's are worth more than about $25,000 in good condition. (Remember whatever you are doing to the seller, some time in the future a buyers will be doing to you)
Some of us, me included, have boats that we feel can be maintained at a reasonable cost to be safe and usable and not eat your lunch. What that dollar amount is, depends on where you are starting from, what capabilities you have, and how you are going to use your boat.
Last year I replaced all my portlights with NFM Tri max. The material was about $1500. The labor would have been $3,000 to $4,000 or more. I enjoyed doing it.
It is also delusional to believe that boats don't need continuous repairs and upkeep. The instant a bottom job is done the clock is ticking down to the next one, even on a brand new boat that is being splashed for the first time ever.
So if that keel job truly costs $5,000 and results in a keel that is as good as new, and if all the rigging, sails, steering, engine, propulsion, wiring, hull, tankage, plumbing, winches and a whole bunch of other stuff is usable then go for it.
Otherwise move on - and answer all the same questions for the next one..........
You are posing this as a simple question when it is very complex. Face the fact that whatever you do, it is delusional to believe our HC 37's are worth more than about $25,000 in good condition. (Remember whatever you are doing to the seller, some time in the future a buyers will be doing to you)
Some of us, me included, have boats that we feel can be maintained at a reasonable cost to be safe and usable and not eat your lunch. What that dollar amount is, depends on where you are starting from, what capabilities you have, and how you are going to use your boat.
Last year I replaced all my portlights with NFM Tri max. The material was about $1500. The labor would have been $3,000 to $4,000 or more. I enjoyed doing it.
It is also delusional to believe that boats don't need continuous repairs and upkeep. The instant a bottom job is done the clock is ticking down to the next one, even on a brand new boat that is being splashed for the first time ever.
So if that keel job truly costs $5,000 and results in a keel that is as good as new, and if all the rigging, sails, steering, engine, propulsion, wiring, hull, tankage, plumbing, winches and a whole bunch of other stuff is usable then go for it.
Otherwise move on - and answer all the same questions for the next one..........
$5000 to rebed the keel, if that involves unbolting, dropping, cleaning, prepping, re-attaching and re-torquing, is probably not unreasonable. However, this is the first time I have ever heard of a H37C keel needing re-bedding. They were put together like Fort Knox according to John Cherubini II. What makes you think it needs re-bedding? Did the surveyor recommend it?So I looked at the boat today. A few soft spots in the deck and she will need a new cabin sole, but My question, the keel was broken loose from the hull and had some slight movements in it. The boat yard said it would cost 4000 - 5000 to fix. Dose that sound right or should I be bailing out on this deal? I love the layout and it really dose seem like a solid boat. Thanks Paul M
I agree... This boat is in decent shape and wayAs I said mine is ready to go anywhere. as John B. put it there a lot out there. fixer uppers as was my boat when I got her. the math on a boat its simple multiplication the bigger the boat. a 20 ft boat its a 300 fix on a 30 ft boat its 3000 dollars on a 40 ft boat its 6000 k. as a rule B.brake ut A.another T. thousand
$5000 to rebed the keel, if that involves unbolting, dropping, cleaning, prepping, re-attaching and re-torquing, is probably not unreasonable. However, this is the first time I have ever heard of a H37C keel needing re-bedding. They were put together like Fort Knox according to John Cherubini II. What makes you think it needs re-bedding? Did the surveyor recommend it?