150 Genoa ? ?

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Ken Shubert

Is anyone using a hanked-on 150 Genoa? It seems like a good idea for the lazy winds of late summer but some questions arise. Where do you put the blocks? What kind of pole arrangement is used? Are the winch locations usable? Is tacking a nightmare with all that canvas to move across the deck? Thanks! Ken S/V Wouff Hong
 
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Dave Condon

Genoa

The problem using a 150 is you have too much sail area and in a gust, you will become over easily powered. Additionally, the sheets would have to runoutboard of the shrouds and life limes in some intances, thus tacking is no good. Both Hunter Marine and I would recommend that you consider a spinnaker for your boat instead of a genoa. I have found that in 1-2 knots of wind just like any other boat, you will not move much but remember the additional sail area in the main as a result of a larger roach due to no back stay. Base on experience since introducing this boat 8/15/92
 
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Doug King

Nix genoa, bigger main.

Ken's questions- -Is anyone using a hanked-on 150 Genoa? Yup. I know a bunch of H19, H23.5, and H240 owners who have rigged genoas. -Where do you put the blocks? That is a problem. You can put them on a track at the gunwhale, bolted through the hull-deck flange, but this has two problems. It weakens the hull/deck joint, the base is too wide and the boat won't point well to windward. -What kind of pole arrangement is used? Whatever you like. A ring on the mast is best. -Are the winch locations usable? Yes but you need some added turning blocks. -Is tacking a nightmare with all that canvas to move across the deck? Yes. True of most genoas. Note that Dave Condon advises against a genoa. I would too; these rigs are truly not designed for one. However genoas are "the style" and many people sem to think they need one. I strongly recommend a new jib and mainsail. The factory sails do not really have good shape, and you can get a lot of area in a larger roach in the main. A jib made to fit by a good sailmaker will also be bit larger than the factory jib, and much better shaped. We got some new sails this summer, designed to pack a few extra square feet in. The boat moves much better in light air, and is faster, points higher, and heels less, in a good breeze. Frash Breezes- Doug King
 
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Greg Cunningham

Who made the new sails?

Doug, Can you and would you tell us who you had make your new sails. I have been considering doing the same, and it sounds like your sailmaker did a good job. Spare Time - Greg Cunningham
 
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Michael O'Hara

155% on H25

Not writing specifically to a H23.5, but I tend to disagree with the other respondents. Tacking a 155 genoa is not a problem, just be aware that you can get a lot of chafe on the shrouds. Does a 23.5 have a toe-rail? If so, that's where you put your lead blocks, possibly a block with attached snap shackle. Also, without a roller furled headsail, you do have to consider how soon to reduce sail. But your basic response to a gust is to let out the main sheet, not the genoa (or both if its a BIG gust!). Either way, I strongly recommend the Hood sail loft in Sausalito, CA. Robin did a GREAT job on my 155% and will be making a new main for me soon. And you get a 25% discount between now and Oct. 15. Good luck! Michael O'
 
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Andy Komoroski

170 on a H22

I have used a 170 Genny on my H22 for about 8 years with no problems what so ever. The last few years I've used it as a converted roller furler (CDI), even better yet because it can be reefed. The H22 has toe rails and I use snap shackled bocks for leads, which can be placed further aft as desired. Many days I've sailed with the head sail only. For strong puffs-quickly relax the sheet and let some air slip. out
 
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