I have only used a 100 head sail on my H28.5 for the two seasons I've owned the boat. It's an 86 sail and the leach is rotted. I own a 150 in good shape. Would I be happy using the 150? I single frequently and when my wife is on board she likes to keep the heel below 15 degrees. We had a lot of wind this year on Erie, early reef and sometimes reduced head sail. Just trying to decide if I should start shopping or try the 150 next season. Thanks in advance
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150 may be a little large.
Have you thought about a 130 roller furling jib? This would give you the extra power on those light air days with the ability to reef the jib down to a 75 or 80 jib in heavy air. When the wind is lite, your 150 should really help in lite air.
Have you thought about a 130 roller furling jib? This would give you the extra power on those light air days with the ability to reef the jib down to a 75 or 80 jib in heavy air. When the wind is lite, your 150 should really help in lite air.
150 Genoa
We have traditionally light wind during mid summer. The 150 has been great on those light days. The new roller furling makes it more versatile, though not the most effecient when reefed to a 70% - 80% headsail. Why buy another sail, when this will do the trick?
We have traditionally light wind during mid summer. The 150 has been great on those light days. The new roller furling makes it more versatile, though not the most effecient when reefed to a 70% - 80% headsail. Why buy another sail, when this will do the trick?
Take Care of 150
... and don't overstress it and blow it out. Use it for the lighter winds and repair or replace the working sail for the higher wind loads. If the 150 is used in the higher wind ranges it will stress the sailcloth and ruin the shape. A bagier sail will, in turn, cause the boat to heel more than it should which will hurt both sailing and crew performance.
... and don't overstress it and blow it out. Use it for the lighter winds and repair or replace the working sail for the higher wind loads. If the 150 is used in the higher wind ranges it will stress the sailcloth and ruin the shape. A bagier sail will, in turn, cause the boat to heel more than it should which will hurt both sailing and crew performance.
Replace the 100
With another one. I think the ideal cruising inventory for Lake Erie is a standard jib for the heavy days, and a big sail for the light airs. I have a 110, and an asymetrical cruising spinnaker for my '77 h27. A 100 and a 150 gives you the same options, except that you will have to drop the 100 to use the 150 - not a big problem for cruising. Reefing to stay at or below 15 degrees of heel will keep you going faster, more well balanced, and please your wife. Most sailboats are going slower over 20 degrees of heel. With our 110 up, we can easily reef to match winds up to 30 knots with roller reefing on the headsail, and 2 reefs in the main. David Lady Lillie
With another one. I think the ideal cruising inventory for Lake Erie is a standard jib for the heavy days, and a big sail for the light airs. I have a 110, and an asymetrical cruising spinnaker for my '77 h27. A 100 and a 150 gives you the same options, except that you will have to drop the 100 to use the 150 - not a big problem for cruising. Reefing to stay at or below 15 degrees of heel will keep you going faster, more well balanced, and please your wife. Most sailboats are going slower over 20 degrees of heel. With our 110 up, we can easily reef to match winds up to 30 knots with roller reefing on the headsail, and 2 reefs in the main. David Lady Lillie
98%
We sail our 28.5 on Erie out of Catawba Island and the sail we will be replacing this winter is the orginal 110 with a UK Tape Drive 98%. The 98 will have battens in the sail to keep it flat for the heavy air days so it can not be rolled on a furler but is a very fast sail. On the days it is blowing 20 knots and you need to get home you will wished you had that 98%. With just the main the boat will not point very well. Since I need one also maybe we could get a better deal buying two. E-mail me off site at cruckstuhl@woh.rr.com The reason for the 98% is that we will be able to have battens in the sail to keep it flat which is what we want in the wind range where the sail will be used. It also will not hit the mast when tacking through. Cliff
We sail our 28.5 on Erie out of Catawba Island and the sail we will be replacing this winter is the orginal 110 with a UK Tape Drive 98%. The 98 will have battens in the sail to keep it flat for the heavy air days so it can not be rolled on a furler but is a very fast sail. On the days it is blowing 20 knots and you need to get home you will wished you had that 98%. With just the main the boat will not point very well. Since I need one also maybe we could get a better deal buying two. E-mail me off site at cruckstuhl@woh.rr.com The reason for the 98% is that we will be able to have battens in the sail to keep it flat which is what we want in the wind range where the sail will be used. It also will not hit the mast when tacking through. Cliff
Spinnaker
Keep the jib at 100 or 110, since this is your service foresail that you need almost all the time. Reefing a genoa is counterproductive, and a full 150 can be overpowering. Get a used asymetrical spinnaker to fly on light days. It's twice or three times the 110 and will give you plenty of power. Be sure to include the chute, unless you're training for the America's Cup.
Keep the jib at 100 or 110, since this is your service foresail that you need almost all the time. Reefing a genoa is counterproductive, and a full 150 can be overpowering. Get a used asymetrical spinnaker to fly on light days. It's twice or three times the 110 and will give you plenty of power. Be sure to include the chute, unless you're training for the America's Cup.
Roller?
If you have roller reefing and an older 150 you may want to pay a few bucks to have a foam luff pad put in and maybe a little cut modification. This will allow you to reduce sail in the cockpit (even while at helm if you get a system) and have that extra power for light winds and roll up to a 120-130 for the heavier blows. That has worked well for us. We also have a 110 and storm jib that we don't use much. Like you, my wife stops having as much fun when things start banging around down below too much (although she is good for about 30 degrees). When the wind gets too strong for reefed main and reefed 150, we motor. Doug
If you have roller reefing and an older 150 you may want to pay a few bucks to have a foam luff pad put in and maybe a little cut modification. This will allow you to reduce sail in the cockpit (even while at helm if you get a system) and have that extra power for light winds and roll up to a 120-130 for the heavier blows. That has worked well for us. We also have a 110 and storm jib that we don't use much. Like you, my wife stops having as much fun when things start banging around down below too much (although she is good for about 30 degrees). When the wind gets too strong for reefed main and reefed 150, we motor. Doug
Thanks Crew
Doug, I have a roller fuller. I'm unfamiliar with a foam luff pad. Does this plus the cut help the shape when reefed?
Doug, I have a roller fuller. I'm unfamiliar with a foam luff pad. Does this plus the cut help the shape when reefed?
It does !
On my 34, I have a brand new 130 on a Profurl and had it done with the foam pad. What a difference it makes going up-wind and being able to still keep a good shape in the sail even when furled 20 to 30%. Beyond that forget it, you will not be able to shape the sail as it simply is not made for that.
On my 34, I have a brand new 130 on a Profurl and had it done with the foam pad. What a difference it makes going up-wind and being able to still keep a good shape in the sail even when furled 20 to 30%. Beyond that forget it, you will not be able to shape the sail as it simply is not made for that.
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