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Best fire prevention device for sailboat w/ diesel engine, etc.

Discussion in 'Ask An Oday Owner' started by Pat, May 16, 2018. Add this thread to a FAQ

  1. Pat

    Pat

    Joined Jun 7, 2004
    1,209 posts, 45 likes
    Oday 272LE
    US Ninnescah Yacht Club, Wichita, Ks.
    my original fire ext. needs to be replaced I think....I purchased it in the spring of 1986...it says it is okay for use (green) but firedepartment down the street doubts it's as okay as it thinks it is..

    thanks, Patrick in Wichita..
     


  2. thinwater

    thinwater

    Joined Mar 26, 2011
    1,948 posts, 368 likes
    Corsair F-24 MK I
    US Deale, MD
    Get a fire blanket while you're at it. A big wool one. Unlike an extinguisher it doesn't run out in 20 seconds, and it can be the best answer for galley fires. Work well in combination with water for non-oil fires.
     


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  3. LeslieTroyer

    LeslieTroyer

    Joined May 20, 2016
    1,672 posts, 565 likes
    Catalina 36 MK1
    US Everett, WA
    +1 for the blanket. The best/cheap are army surplus wool blankets. Keep it handy

    Make sure you put extinguishers where ever you need to exit the boat safely. Aft and V births - outside of galley space, lazerette (to assist those still in the boat).

    Les
     


  4. Capt jgw

    Capt jgw

    Joined Feb 8, 2014
    992 posts, 55 likes
    Columbia 36
    US Muskegon
    After a while the powder cakes up in the bottom of the bottle. Pressure reads ok but nothing will come out when you pull the trigger.
    By the way, one FE might keep the Coast Guard happy, but when you need one ten is not enough. I have six on my 36 footer, only required to carry two.
     


  5. Jackdaw

    Jackdaw

    Joined Nov 8, 2010
    8,974 posts, 2,263 likes
    Beneteau First 36.7 & 260
    US Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
    A fire on a fiberglass boat doubles in size every 3 seconds. It goes from non-issue to nuance to problem to disaster in about the time it takes to read this post. Working extinguishers everywhere. Your best chance to beat a fire is when it's small.
     


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  6. Pat

    Pat

    Joined Jun 7, 2004
    1,209 posts, 45 likes
    Oday 272LE
    US Ninnescah Yacht Club, Wichita, Ks.
    Thank you to everyone above for your great advice thoughtful ideas.....I agree....yes, the fire dept. says the gauge on the ext. might say okay, and hit might have pressure but what will be the quality of the contents after 30 plus years. I bought two today at our local purveyor of extinguishers.
     


  7. LeslieTroyer

    LeslieTroyer

    Joined May 20, 2016
    1,672 posts, 565 likes
    Catalina 36 MK1
    US Everett, WA
    I replaced the three on Mahalo with 4 . Didn’t need to but gives me piece of mind.

    Les
     


  8. Michael Davis

    Michael Davis

    Joined Jan 5, 2017
    593 posts, 247 likes
    Beneteau First 38
    Ca Lyall Harbour Saturna Island
    Before throwing your old extinguisher out you should give it a couple of smacks with a rubber mallet ( to shake up the powder) then try putting out a fire. You never get too much practise.
     


  9. Benny17441

    Benny17441

    Joined May 24, 2004
    5,451 posts, 325 likes
    CC 30
    US South Florida
    Fire extinguishers manufactured in 1986 lie if they say they are good today. The chemicals inside it are probably compacted into a rock that will not fit through the neck of the bottle even if there is propellant under pressure still in it. The useful longevity of fire extinguishers is determined by the length of time where 99% of those tested will operate properly. Not 50%, Not 75% but upwards of 99%. Check for the expiration date stamped on the bottle. You can help extend the life of a fire extinguisher by periodically removing it from its bracket, inverting it and tapping on the bottom and shaking to release any caked chemicals. The green arrow just indicates there is enough pressure but it does not indicate how much propellant is left. This is like propane tanks that will show enough pressure up to the moment before they run out. Fire is the worst thing that can happen in a boat so to have multiple extinguishers and replace them well before their expiration date will seriously enhance safety.
     


  10. Pat

    Pat

    Joined Jun 7, 2004
    1,209 posts, 45 likes
    Oday 272LE
    US Ninnescah Yacht Club, Wichita, Ks.
    Thanks to all of you for your advice.....Mine said it was okay, but the fireman I spoke with said to assume it would be caked in the bottom....Have purchased a new one and should heed the advice above and have one more close at hand...
    I appreciate everyone's great advice....I can't imagine the terror of a boat fire and it seems like a bad way to make the news....thanks again to all for the advice. Patrick in Wichita
     


  11. Justin_NSA

    Justin_NSA

    Joined Jul 7, 2004
    4,622 posts, 700 likes
    Hunter 30T
    US Cheney, KS
    And it gives you a good excuse to play with fire! :yeah:
    I probably need to get all of ours checked. They read in the green
     


  12. Ron20324

    Ron20324

    Joined Jan 22, 2008
    6,174 posts, 565 likes
    Beneteau 323
    US Annapolis MD
     


  13. Maine Sail

    Maine Sail Moderator

    Joined Feb 6, 1998
    10,686 posts, 517 likes
    Canadian Sailcraft 36T
    US Casco Bay, ME


    Fuses and safe wiring....:wink:
     


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  14. Gunni

    Gunni

    Joined Mar 16, 2010
    5,161 posts, 999 likes
    Beneteau 411 Oceanis
    US Annapolis
    It will give you an idea how much cleanup will be required for all that dry chemical inside your boat.
     


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  15. Michael Davis

    Michael Davis

    Joined Jan 5, 2017
    593 posts, 247 likes
    Beneteau First 38
    Ca Lyall Harbour Saturna Island
    You got that right Gunni. I think there are at least 200# of dry chemical in a 5# extinguisher. Use to have my ext.done every year at work. Always used the old fills for the kids to put out fires in the backyard. They got pretty good at it.
     


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  16. Pat

    Pat

    Joined Jun 7, 2004
    1,209 posts, 45 likes
    Oday 272LE
    US Ninnescah Yacht Club, Wichita, Ks.
    Ours was in the green as well, but the fireman I spoke with said that is a measure of pressure, not quality of retardant..so we got new ones....Thanks Justin...
     


  17. Rick Webb

    Rick Webb

    Joined Jun 2, 2004
    2,678 posts, 104 likes
    Hunter 23.5
    US Fort Walton Yacht Club, Florida
  18. Sailm8

    Sailm8

    Joined Feb 21, 2008
    1,503 posts, 169 likes
    Hunter 29.5
    US Punta Gorda
    Does anyone have one of those fire access holes in their engine cover? It is on my project list. I also thought about one for the battery compartment.
     


  19. LeslieTroyer

    LeslieTroyer

    Joined May 20, 2016
    1,672 posts, 565 likes
    Catalina 36 MK1
    US Everett, WA
    I put one in my C36 engine cover - pointed at starter and alternator.

    Les
     


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  20. geehaw

    geehaw

    Joined May 15, 2010
    231 posts, 5 likes
    O-day 25 shoal keel
    US Valdez
    I had mine serviced. Was told the same thing. They cake and told to shake them. Also the should be replace or serviced every 6 years. But to service them was only $5 cheaper then new ones. But have 3 so $15 is $15.
     



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