I have seen references to a rating of 264 in this group from 2012 and a generic search result of 270. But, does anyone know the actual PHRF for the O'Day 192? I'm in NorCal, but will take any region.
PHRF O'Day 192
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The exact rating for your boat can vary according to what equipment you have, for example a headsail roller furler adds a few seconds. A 3 bladed prop vs 2 bladed adds a few seconds. The 264 and 270 you found are probably pretty close unless you get someone qualified to give you an official rating.
We are talking about PHRF - right?
That's the point. There isn't an official number. It varies by local fleets. And could vary within a particular fleet depending on what sails are being used or by type of prop being used on boats with inboard engines. It can also vary due to the skill of the crew. If a particular boat is winning all the time there could be pressure to lower its rating in that fleet. And vice versa. That might not affect other local fleets. It also can vary by local weather conditions. PHRF is a performance based rating as opposed to many other rating rules which are derived from design parameters.
PHRF New England does not have a rating for an O'Day 192 (This could be outdated) which probably means no one is sailing that particular design in that local fleet. In that case if you apply for a PHRF rating the fleet handicapper would look for other fleets which have a rating for the 192. Normally they would rate an unknown boat at the lower end of the range because it's easier to give time than it is to take time away.
PHRF ratings assume that your boat is in racing condition and the crew is skilled. If someone comes out un-prepared in any way, dirty bottom, extra weight on board, crappy sails, don't have a copy of the sailing instructions or are known to sail poorly, requests for time won't be successful.
That's the point. There isn't an official number. It varies by local fleets. And could vary within a particular fleet depending on what sails are being used or by type of prop being used on boats with inboard engines. It can also vary due to the skill of the crew. If a particular boat is winning all the time there could be pressure to lower its rating in that fleet. And vice versa. That might not affect other local fleets. It also can vary by local weather conditions. PHRF is a performance based rating as opposed to many other rating rules which are derived from design parameters.
PHRF New England does not have a rating for an O'Day 192 (This could be outdated) which probably means no one is sailing that particular design in that local fleet. In that case if you apply for a PHRF rating the fleet handicapper would look for other fleets which have a rating for the 192. Normally they would rate an unknown boat at the lower end of the range because it's easier to give time than it is to take time away.
PHRF ratings assume that your boat is in racing condition and the crew is skilled. If someone comes out un-prepared in any way, dirty bottom, extra weight on board, crappy sails, don't have a copy of the sailing instructions or are known to sail poorly, requests for time won't be successful.
US Sailing’s PHRF lookup tool at Boat Class Lookup - US Sailing lists 3 regions with 192 ratings -
Your local PHRF would need to issue you a cert to have a proper number, but they’d probably use those as a starting point.
Your local PHRF would need to issue you a cert to have a proper number, but they’d probably use those as a starting point.
The numbers that David found above (post #4) might indicate that the boat is quicker in Chesapeake Bay's light air than in places that might be windier like Narragansett Bay. Perhaps it is easily overpowered, heeling too much for optimal forward speed. Your PHRF Committee will take local conditions into account when they decide on a rating for you.