Mac 26D daggerboard

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karlos263

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Sep 4, 2012
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macgregor 26d port maitland, on
Is there a stop when you lower the daggerboard or can it drop right out of the well? My daggerboard rope has 3 knots in it but I don't know why or which to use. How can you tell if it is all the way down? thanks
Karl
 
finding41

finding41

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Nov 23, 2011
2,023
MacGregor 26D London Ontario Canada
Karl: To tell if the DB is all the way down just look down the hole. If you should just see water. I then bring mine up a few inches. The manual says leave a small amount of water on top. I don't. (Ware I sail it is kind of shallow.)
I raise and lower mine to accommodate general sailing and racing. (I pull it all the way up when I go down wind while racing for less drag.)
If you go into Either resources or boat info in one of the tabs above you will find your manual. If you cant PM me and I'll email it to you.
NOTE: you should have 2 lines on the DB. One is adjustable (with knots in your case) and one is just tied to a pad eye so the Db can't go out the bottom if the other line breaks.
Not the best picture but my adjustment line is the red one and the saftey one is off white. Ignore the loop sticking up with the red tracer. Its the main halyard.
 

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finding41

finding41

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Nov 23, 2011
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MacGregor 26D London Ontario Canada
Oh I forgot. If you want to remove the DB just do it when the mast is down. (Pull it up and out.) Otherwise you will be diving for it.
 
oreana123

oreana123

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Jun 5, 2004
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Macgregor 26D Boise
Also, Macgregors design philosophy decided to put the rail of the trailer directly under the daggerboard, so it cannot be lowered while on the trailer. This limits the max length of a custom dboard: the distance from the bottom of the well to the underside of the mast bracket.
 
oreana123

oreana123

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Jun 5, 2004
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Macgregor 26D Boise
Another relevant question might be: how far down the daggerboard well can the dboard travel and not either jam or fall out the bottom?
 
MrBill_FLL

MrBill_FLL

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May 4, 2005
4,062
Macgregor 26d Ft Lauderdale, Fl
Oh, 3' is the factory drop length.

was that your question? how far you should lower it?
 
Brad1968

Brad1968

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May 15, 2011
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Hunter 216 Noble, OK
It's also easy to remove the daggerboard at the slip if you drop it out the bottom.

I simply tied longer ends on both of the up haul lines and lowered the daggerboard until the top of it was about 4' under the boat.

Once it was lowered, all that was necessary was to loop a line under the bow and stern then pull the daggerboard over to the dock and untie the extended lines.

It's about a 10 minute job you can do without getting wet.
 
Brad1968

Brad1968

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May 15, 2011
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Hunter 216 Noble, OK
Exactly.

Just drop 2 lines thru the trunk with a weight of some sort and fish them out like they were the daggerboard, then reverse the process. It's fairly easy to line the daggerboard up with the trunk since you have 2 lines.

Another 10 minute job.
 
CzechMate

CzechMate

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Aug 14, 2012
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Macgregor 26D Mosquito Lake, Cortland Ohio
finding41 said:
Same thing but backwards to get it back in?
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Battery placement. 1988 Mac26D
Can I mount my battery, in a battery box, in the Lazarette, where I also have my gas tank?
Is there any danger of having the battery in there where fumes are obviously present.
The battery is now in the cabin, in the storage compartment on the starboard side. That is
About 12 feet from the battery, and I think too much of a voltage drop. I am using 4 gauge
Cable, but I think it is too far from the battery, and uses too much juice for starting the OB.
Any thoughts?
 
MrBill_FLL

MrBill_FLL

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May 4, 2005
4,062
Macgregor 26d Ft Lauderdale, Fl
tjlgolfer said:
Battery placement. 1988 Mac26D
Can I mount my battery, in a battery box, in the Lazarette, where I also have my gas tank?
Is there any danger of having the battery in there where fumes are obviously present.
The battery is now in the cabin, in the storage compartment on the starboard side. That is
About 12 feet from the battery, and I think too much of a voltage drop. I am using 4 gauge
Cable, but I think it is too far from the battery, and uses too much juice for starting the OB.
Any thoughts?
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why not just get thicker wire?

how are your fuel tanks installed in the laz? IMHO, that's the key issue, how are they vented, and how is the laz vented.

a permanent tank, with proper venting, you could probably put the battery back there... (but I would not... - how are you going to water them?) unless you're going with GSM, or optima's ? then maybe....

personally, I'd just get larger wire.

-YMMV.
 
CzechMate

CzechMate

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Aug 14, 2012
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Macgregor 26D Mosquito Lake, Cortland Ohio
MrBill_FLL said:
why not just get thicker wire?

how are your fuel tanks installed in the laz? IMHO, that's the key issue, how are they vented, and how is the laz vented.

a permanent tank, with proper venting, you could probably put the battery back there... (but I would not... - how are you going to water them?) unless you're going with GSM, or optima's ? then maybe....

personally, I'd just get larger wire.

-YMMV.
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Mr Bill
Whenever you answer a question, you use abbreviations that I don't understand. What is OT and IMHO?
The fuel tank is one 6 gal tank. It is vented through the cap. A little twist cap in the center of the gas cap. The
Battery is maintenance free, no water caps to add water. The Lazarette is original equipment and as you know is not vented
Just the opening for the gas line to the motor, and the opening for the battery cable to the motor. There is air passing all around the top of the Lazarette hatch,,there is no weather stripping. Increasing the cable gauge from 4 to a larger gauge
Would just increase the resistance a a greater voltage drop.
 
MrBill_FLL

MrBill_FLL

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May 4, 2005
4,062
Macgregor 26d Ft Lauderdale, Fl
welcome to web forums!

YMMV = your mileage may vary
urban dictionary might be of help or the link below.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=imho



OT = off topic... since this is a thread about daggerboards...

sumner's website and the member sites here are pretty good for background ideas.

best, MrBill
 
MrBill_FLL

MrBill_FLL

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May 4, 2005
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Macgregor 26d Ft Lauderdale, Fl
tjlgolfer said:
Mr Bill
Whenever you answer a question, you use abbreviations that I don't understand. What is OT and IMHO?
The fuel tank is one 6 gal tank. It is vented through the cap. A little twist cap in the center of the gas cap. The
Battery is maintenance free, no water caps to add water. The Lazarette is original equipment and as you know is not vented
Just the opening for the gas line to the motor, and the opening for the battery cable to the motor. There is air passing all around the top of the Lazarette hatch,,there is no weather stripping. Increasing the cable gauge from 4 to a larger gauge
Would just increase the resistance a a greater voltage drop.
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I would start a new thread for this issue.

I do not think you can legally or safely put a portable tank in the lazarettee unless you add at least 2 passive vents (like I have done...) or mount a permanent tank w. vents and fills.

your battery will vent gasses that can explode with a spark, same with the gas fumes. maybe that won't happen.... but its not uscg regs.


as far as thicker wire having more resistance..... I don't think so.


but please get other opinions...
 
walt

walt

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Jun 1, 2007
3,520
Macgregor 26S Hobie TI Ridgway Colorado
For the battery question..

I assume that you bought the boat and the PO put in 4 gauge wire for the outboard electric start?

You should have no issue with the 12 foot 4 gauge wire run. You can use a wire gauge calculator like on this web site http://www.powerstream.com/Wire_Size.htm

My 9.8 four stroke starter uses about 30 amps during starting and plugging this in with your 12 foot distance and 4 gauge gives a voltage drop of only .184 volts - ie, only a small drop.

I have my battery as far as I can get it in the forward part of the boat and run 4 guage wires all the way to the outboard with a starter and never have any issue. If your having trouble starting, it probably isnt the wire causing the problem.

One caution - if you dont have it, you should consider a fuse near the battery for that wire run. I have a 90 amp fuse and its never tripped when starting but will protect the wire from a short. Without the fuse, a short of those wires is going to result in some flames.

Also, the very rear of the boat is not a good place for a lot of weight if you want to keep that boat as fast as possible. But not everyone is concerned about every little bit of speed. Spark with gas fumes in the Laz - BOOM..
 
dawg2

dawg2

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Jun 25, 2012
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Mac Gregor 26D GA
MrBill_FLL said:
Oh, 3' is the factory drop length.

was that your question? how far you should lower it?
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I have one rope that is the "stop" so if the primary breaks, it doesn't fall out. On the rope I use for lowering I have it marked. I have one mark at the 1' down, 2 marks on the rope for 2' down, and the last one has 3 marks on the rope showing it is at max of 3'. That way when I get in somewhere shallow, I know how far to pull it up and not run aground.
 
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