keel on Beneteau 411 limited edition (2003)

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piebel

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Mar 9, 2012
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Beneteau 411 limited edition Plattsburg
Anybody knows what kind of keel on a 411 LE and what would be the weight.
Thanx
Pierre
 
May 24, 2007
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Beneteau 352 Milwaukee, WI
Anybody knows what kind of keel on a 411 LE and what would be the weight.
Thanx
Pierre
With the exception of a single used boat sales reference, I can find nothing that indicates what makes a "limited edition" version any different from standard procuction.

Do you know what a limited edition version of the 411 is supposed to be?
 
Apr 27, 2010
968
Beneteau 352 Hull #276 Ontario
http://www.yachtworld.com/core/list...units=Feet&access=Public&listing_id=77190&url=


http://beneteau.sailboatowners.com/...l&id=193&Itemid=888&brand=Beneteau&bmodel=411

The Oceanis 411 had a longish production run, from 1997 to 2004, with many minor variations in trim and detail, as well as differences between models built for the EU and US markets. Designed by Group Finot, construction is of solid GRP for the hull, with a balsa-cored deck and coachroof moulding. Designations such as 'Clipper' and 'Celebration' refer to trim levels and detail of boats built at different times. The keel material would be the same.
 

Gunni

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Mar 16, 2010
5,937
Beneteau 411 Oceanis Annapolis
B411 Le

The ballast weight is 5,500 lbs. for the shoal draft (4'9") and 5,236 lbs. for the optional 5'7" draft boat. All 411 keels are cast iron.

The LE version came with a series of finish upgrades and increased equipment. Polished hatch frames, chromed dorades, blue gel coat, inverter, larger windlass, sailing instrument package. My boat is a 411 LE.
 
May 24, 2007
185
Beneteau 352 Milwaukee, WI
The ballast weight is 5,500 lbs. for the shoal draft (4'9") and 5,236 lbs. for the optional 5'7" draft boat. All 411 keels are cast iron.

The LE version came with a series of finish upgrades and increased equipment. Polished hatch frames, chromed dorades, blue gel coat, inverter, larger windlass, sailing instrument package. My boat is a 411 LE.
So, the "trim" package (LE, Clipper or Celebration) has no bearing on the keel attached to a boat. The "standard" keel was the shoal draft with the fin style as an option.

Pierre, if you know the "draft" from the boat's listing then your answer can be inferred from the information above.
 
Apr 27, 2010
968
Beneteau 352 Hull #276 Ontario
I wasn't doubting you Gunni. ;)

It's just all the mis-information on the net or should I say mis-typing.:D
 

Gunni

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Mar 16, 2010
5,937
Beneteau 411 Oceanis Annapolis
Oh, I just thought the spec. sheet might be useful. There are some changes through the run, biggest probably being the change from the original specified Westerbeke 42B4 40hp to the more powerful Yanmar 3JH4E 54hp.
 
May 24, 2007
185
Beneteau 352 Milwaukee, WI
Interesting as those 2 different links show the 5'-7" keel as 5500 lbs

and this link http://www.yachtworld.com/core/list...urrency=USD&access=Public&listing_id=1021&url=

shows the keel 5'-7 as 5236lbs.

Wish these guys would get it right and the Beneteau website sucks now. The specs are in French and are a very poor scan, almost unreadable.
Most internet sales listing are based on info provided by the owners/brokers and they often don't know what they have. To many, the 351 & 352, US or French built are often seen & listed as the same. There is a 352 listed in Australia that is pure 351 in the pics. The industry doesn't even know how to list the boats. Do we have a Beneteau 352, Oceanis 352 or a Beneteau Oceanis 352?

It doesn't help that Beneteau USA has chosen to withdraw owner support via the net.

Do you have an electronic version of your 352 owner's manual?
 
Apr 27, 2010
968
Beneteau 352 Hull #276 Ontario
The Benetau 352 doesn't really exist. I'm going to classify it along with the Mary Celeste and The Fying Dutchman.:D I..... wonder if they make a flag for that.;)

I have the electronic version of the Bene 351 which I got before Beneteau screwed up their website.

I do have 2 binders that came with the boat and they are a mixture of 351 and 352 documentation.

I do like the boat that doesn't exist.
 
May 24, 2007
185
Beneteau 352 Milwaukee, WI
On-line parts, now called SpareParts: http://spareparts.beneteauusa.com/spp/controleur.php?action=accueil

I also checked and there is no listing of a Beneteau 352 in their "previous models" list. Are you sailing in a parallel universe? :)
OK ... Parts support continues. Ward Richardson confirmed that my hull ID number is for a Beneteau Oceanis 352, hull #282. There are 27 352 owners registered here.

I don't think any 352's were built in France. The 352 is a transitional model. Basically a 351 with interior changes that were adopted in the 361 for the most part.

The online support that used to be available for previous "US" models has disappeared. All that is left is the French built info.

Joker, I'll start the process of scanning in the manual that came with my boat.

Attached is the spec sheet I pulled from the old Beneteau USA site.
 

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piebel

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Mar 9, 2012
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Beneteau 411 limited edition Plattsburg
Thanx to all. I got my answer OK. This forum is very interesting and usefull.
Pierre
 
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