For someone who consistently drops a "Maximum Load". . .

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Cool Beans

Cool Beans

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Mar 8, 2011
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Ranger 33 Norfolk
A maximum load. . .
A "5 pounder". . .
A food baby. . .
A "Giganticus Turdicus". . .
A "Mr. Poppers Penguin". . .
A "Poopenstein". . .

I'm sure you get the picture :doh: Currently I don't have a tank hooked up so I use the marina facilities, or occasionally "hot-bag" one. . .But, the hole in the bottom of my Jabsco looks so small. . .as does the inside diameter of those waste hose. . .I'm not sure I would trust it :Liar:

But then again, I'm no sure how the system is supposed to work? Is it necessary to be a forced fit? Or is there another clog-less option out there? or am I worrying for nothing? I've never put calipers to a turd before, just kind of eye-balling it. . .This is for a future live aboard.

Hope this wasn't TMI, but at some point I need to get this figured out :dance:

Thanks!

PS. Yes this is serious, but I was laughing while I typed. . .
 
Peggie Hall HeadMistress

Peggie Hall HeadMistress

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Dec 2, 1997
8,946
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We all got the picture very early on in your description. A couple of pictures in fact, including your self portrait of someone who has absolutely no class whatever.

If your toilet is a macerating electric toilet, there shouldn't be a problem IF you ALWAYS add about a quart of the water to the bowl ahead of solids (use a cup from the sink). If it's a manual toilet that has the standard 1.5" discharge, it shouldn't be a problem if you add about of water to the bowl ahead of solids. However, if your toilet is a Jabsco manual that has only a 1" discharge, it's likely to be a problem even if you add water first.

A 1.5" discharge actually isn't much smaller than the trapway inside most household toilets. Although some of the more expensive newer ones have trapways as large 3", the typical trapway diameter is only 1.75" in most older toilets and newer less expensive ones. So as long as there's enough water in the bowl and/or a macerator in the toilet, a 1.5" discharge can handle just about anything that a household toilet can--including your head, which I suggest you stick in the bowl and flush it to clean up your act.
 
CalebD

CalebD

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Jun 27, 2006
1,479
Tartan 27' 1967 Nyack, NY
Turd-zilla?
As others have said, unless you are eating sand and cement you should not have any problems with your head and its hoses.
My guess is that most clogged heads and hoses come from non-digested materials being flushed in them, not the pre-digested stuff. Some folks bag up their wiping paper and don't flush it for this reason.
 
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AtlanticAl

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Oct 24, 2011
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Lancer 28 Grand Lake
Cool Beans said:
A maximum load. . .
A "5 pounder". . .
A food baby. . .
A "Giganticus Turdicus". . .
A "Mr. Poppers Penguin". . .
A "Poopenstein". . .

I'm sure you get the picture :doh: Currently I don't have a tank hooked up so I use the marina facilities, or occasionally "hot-bag" one. . .But, the hole in the bottom of my Jabsco looks so small. . .as does the inside diameter of those waste hose. . .I'm not sure I would trust it :Liar:

But then again, I'm no sure how the system is supposed to work? Is it necessary to be a forced fit? Or is there another clog-less option out there? or am I worrying for nothing? I've never put calipers to a turd before, just kind of eye-balling it. . .This is for a future live aboard.

Hope this wasn't TMI, but at some point I need to get this figured out :dance:

Thanks!

PS. Yes this is serious, but I was laughing while I typed. . .
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Its funny you mention this, because when i was in the UK, i knew a woman who was doing her masters in engineering, and for her thesis, she was doing exactly what you are talking about. She had all these perspex pipes set up, and would flush turds through them, so see what happend to them, it was fake turds which the university would aquire, but they behaved like the real thing, and she could watch them as they passed through all this pipework, turned out their was two types of fake turdes, their was British Standard turds, and American Standard turds, the american ones were slightly bigger, because they have toilets that you can flush eighteen golf balls down, the british dont have that, but aparently what she was doing, was pretty normal, when they build an aircraft, someone sets up, and does exactly what she was doing, as they also do with a cruise ship, they build the whole toilet system, then flush things through it, to see it will work. I do see what you say, though, because i am working on the hull right now, and just cant see any way, that something can move through that hole in the hull (as its so small) but i am sure, some pressure behind it, its moved through your intestine, and i reckon it could move through that hole.
 
Bill Roosa

Bill Roosa

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Jun 6, 2006
6,990
currently boatless wishing Harrington Harbor North, MD
Assuming a semisolid mass and a 1.5" diameter hole (1.6 square inches of area). If you can develop even a slight suction you can get a sizable force on the mass. If you can develop 3 psi (20% of the max of 14.7 psi) you get 4.8 pounds.
And since is it "squishy" and can be pumped you should not have a problem. Course roughage would not hurt either.
Worst case and it gets clogged don't try "massive pumping to clear the clog". Introduce some water and wait for a while.
 
jimmcgee

jimmcgee

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Feb 26, 2008
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Catalina 30 Marathon, FL
Bill Roosa said:
Worst case and it gets clogged don't try "massive pumping to clear the clog". Introduce some water and wait for a while.
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OK, dumb question. :confused:

In four years we've never had a clog since we mostly day sail and use the facilities at the marina. Also we only use "marine" paper designed for heads.

I know how to clean a clog in a household toilet, what's the best way to clear a clog in a manual head without damaging the valve assembly?



If it matters the head is a '95 vintage Jabsco...
 
Ron20324

Ron20324

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Jan 22, 2008
8,050
Beneteau 323 Annapolis MD
jimmcgee said:
OK, dumb question... what's the best way to clear a clog in a manual head without damaging the valve assembly?...
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You probably learned this in high school: flushing a cherry bomb will break up ANY clog. Oh, wait... you said "not damaging the Valve":doh:
 
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Steve Dion

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Dec 2, 1999
15,184
Hunter Vision-36 Rio Vista, CA.
Rx for your issue:

1 pot of hot coffee every morning and more fiber in your diet.
 
Rick

Rick

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Oct 5, 2004
1,098
Hunter 420 Passage San Diego
Ok that is funny stuff. A bit "crude" perhaps but on the other hand a bit of "crude" might help solve the problem. Trust your instincts.

And having been up close and personal to the unfortunate clog, it is just part of the boat life. Er... "stuff" happens. Surely Peggie was just joking a bit with you. Anyone who knows that much must have gotten her "playtex gloves" dirty once or twice.

Perhaps just a bad memory.

As my wife says "if I cant flush a loaf of bread down it, then I want a better one"

We have just that.

Cheers
 
Maine Sail

Maine Sail

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Feb 6, 1998
11,709
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
jimmcgee said:
In four years we've never had a clog since we mostly day sail and use the facilities at the marina. Also we only use "marine" paper designed for heads.
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In over 20 years we've never had a clog between the tank and bowl, except for a guest trying to flush "female" products:eek:, and we've always used Scott in the wax paper packaging from the grocery store, Wal*Mart or Sam's Club. The individually wrapped rolls means it stays dry on the boat even in foggy humid weather.

I know I'll get the wrath from Peggy but it has worked on all heads we've owned and all boats and holding tanks. I even once compared its break down in two bowls on the counter compared to "marine paper". I then closed my eyes and moved the bowls round and round until I lost track of which was which. After a few hours I could not tell the difference. Both were well dissolved mush...

We've had no problems "stocking the pond with fin-less brown trout" and using Scott TP...
Food for thought...
 
woodster

woodster

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Sep 15, 2009
6,243
S2 9.2a Fairhope Al
Maine Sail said:
Fin-less brown trout is not a food...?:D:D:D:D
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correct you are ....only south of the Mason Dixson Line it is better know as cat fish bait:ass:.....this is the first time in my life i have had chance to use this emote...just couldnt resist:D:D:D:D

regards

woody
 
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