Oceanis 320 Transat

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Nov 23, 2011
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Dear all,

I have a Oceanis 320 and I want To do a Transat. Me, my wife and my young soon.

Having said that, I'm affraid with rought sea.

Have any one To a Transat or similar with a Oceanis 320?

Best for all,

Miguel
 
Nov 8, 2010
11,386
Beneteau First 36.7 & 260 Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
Dear all,

I have a Oceanis 320 and I want To do a Transat. Me, my wife and my young soon.

Having said that, I'm affraid with rought sea.

Have any one To a Transat or similar with a Oceanis 320?

Best for all,

Miguel
Miguel,

People have crossed the Atlantic in eleven foot long sailboats. Its really more about the sailor than the boat.

With respect, can I suggest that until you are ready able about to answer your OWN question about your OWN boat, that you are not ready for a trip like that??

But to help, first think about tankage and storage. The boat will be fine. Humans need consumables. The Diesel needs fuel.


Regards,
clay
 
Nov 23, 2011
4
Dear Jack,

Thank you! I know that, I sail from more than 10 years and I have already done some offshore cruise.

Having said that, I think the Oceanis is not an Offshore boat and not very confortable.

So I would like To have some share experience from someone with a similar boat.

Thanks and see you around.

M
 
Feb 21, 2010
347
Beneteau 31 016 St-Lawrence river
Transat

You write Transat,
This is one of the shortest ocean passages! If you are going from the USA to EU, it is in reality three short passages. USA to Bermuda, Bermuda to Açores and Açores to EU. The longest of which should be around two weeks from Bermuda to Açores.
Going that way I did it on a C&C 38, a 1980 IOR desing... not very comfortable but a great trip.
Going the other way, you either go strait from Canaries to Barbados or Martinique if you do this in December, January you should have quartering wind and waves... a relatively easy trip.
My biggest concern apart from provisioning would be sleep deprivation: it is when you are very tired that you make bad decisions! Maybe you should consider a third working crew member; should one of you hurt him or herself that would leave only one to keep all watches.
In the C&C we ate all meals in the cockpit because the cabin was converted into bunks and we had no place to sit.
Comfort at sea is very relative... For me dry bedding and a clean head will do it.
Have a good passage.
 
Nov 8, 2010
11,386
Beneteau First 36.7 & 260 Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
Dear Jack,

Thank you! I know that, I sail from more than 10 years and I have already done some offshore cruise.

Having said that, I think the Oceanis is not an Offshore boat and not very confortable.

So I would like To have some share experience from someone with a similar boat.

Thanks and see you around.

M
M,

Good, it sound like you already have your optionions about how comfortable your would feel on your current boat.. That's important! As you note and know, most Beneteau designs are not really designed for extended passagemaking. The compromise to give up interior volume to tankage and storage is hard in a boat where 99% of the hulls will never venture away from stores for more than a week. Same with sail handling... A boat that will be good in light long island sound days is not ideal for extended days of 25+ knot plus trade winds.

I would trust our 36.7 in ANY conditions, but I would think twice about a crossing without a serious refit.

Best of luck to you, I hope you are able to pull your plans together!!

CB
 
Jun 9, 2008
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You don't want to put your family in danger, or yourself. So, think this through. Your boat would not be my choice for such a crossing. You have to consider the worst conditions and feel confident that your boat can handle it (not to mention you). There are a number of considerations for a long distance cruise: As already stated, enough capacity for water and fuel and provisions. A deep cockpit with a high bridge deck so water will not pour into your cabin if filled. Large enough scuppers to drain your cockpit quickly. Stout enough hatches, drop boards, and ports to withstand heavy seas. Boats that are classified as offshore "A" vessels have superior hull to deck joints and have gear on board designed to withstand severe conditions. Your trip could be a flat sea situation where you have to motor all the way across, but you have to be prepared for the other extreme. And, if your wife and child are on board, you have them to be responsible for. If you are doing this alone, then that is another thing, but you still leave your family behind without a father, husband, etc. This might sound a bit over the top (what I am writing), but sometimes the ocean is relentless and you should be prepared for it and be on a vessel that can handle it. Nuff said.
 
Nov 23, 2011
4
Barnacle Bill said:
You don't want to put your family in danger, or yourself. So, think this through. Your boat would not be my choice for such a crossing. You have to consider the worst conditions and feel confident that your boat can handle it (not to mention you). There are a number of considerations for a long distance cruise: As already stated, enough capacity for water and fuel and provisions. A deep cockpit with a high bridge deck so water will not pour into your cabin if filled. Large enough scuppers to drain your cockpit quickly. Stout enough hatches, drop boards, and ports to withstand heavy seas. Boats that are classified as offshore "A" vessels have superior hull to deck joints and have gear on board designed to withstand severe conditions. Your trip could be a flat sea situation where you have to motor all the way across, but you have to be prepared for the other extreme. And, if your wife and child are on board, you have them to be responsible for. If you are doing this alone, then that is another thing, but you still leave your family behind without a father, husband, etc. This might sound a bit over the top (what I am writing), but sometimes the ocean is relentless and you should be prepared for it and be on a vessel that can handle it. Nuff said.
Thank you very much. You are right!

Where are you from? Have you done it already?

Kind regards,

Miguel
 
Nov 23, 2011
4
Caboteur said:
You write Transat,
This is one of the shortest ocean passages! If you are going from the USA to EU, it is in reality three short passages. USA to Bermuda, Bermuda to Açores and Açores to EU. The longest of which should be around two weeks from Bermuda to Açores.
Going that way I did it on a C&C 38, a 1980 IOR desing... not very comfortable but a great trip.
Going the other way, you either go strait from Canaries to Barbados or Martinique if you do this in December, January you should have quartering wind and waves... a relatively easy trip.
My biggest concern apart from provisioning would be sleep deprivation: it is when you are very tired that you make bad decisions! Maybe you should consider a third working crew member; should one of you hurt him or herself that would leave only one to keep all watches.
In the C&C we ate all meals in the cockpit because the cabin was converted into bunks and we had no place to sit.
Comfort at sea is very relative... For me dry bedding and a clean head will do it.
Have a good passage.
Thank very much for your comments. The C&C 38 is a very marine boat. I'm preparing To do it next year with ARC. My point is the Oceanis does not have a very strong atitude with rough sea. About energy, space for food and water, I think that will be not THE biggest problem.


Where are you from?

Miguel
 
Feb 21, 2010
347
Beneteau 31 016 St-Lawrence river
Good day Miguel,
I live in St-Jérôme, close to Montreal in Canada. I have crossed four times, three in the C&C 38 and once in a RM 1050: though shorter the RM was a better sea boat. I now own a Beneteau 31, a much more comfortable cruiser but not an ocean crosser; it is a "B" boat, a coastal cruiser.
You are right in thinking that water, fuel (electricity) and food will be the difficult things to manage. We had 300 liters of water and 120 liters fuel and too much food on the C&C. We also had 100 liters in 5 liter bottles in case something happened to the main water supply. Even in the ARC I hope you will be fishing.
We did and eat fish every day after the first week (once we reached the latitude of the Cabo Verde).
It took us twenty two days to sail from Las Palmas to Bridgetown, Barbados.
The other very important "thing" to manage is crew morale: it is important to keep everyone happy and in a good mood. On all four trips this was a total success... but the horror stories I heard from other boats would make your hair stand on end.
Have a good preparation... the ARC is very stringent on safety and on communications: for a first crossing that is good.
Pierre
 

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